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Tagging questions
« on: March 17, 2004, 12:03:28 pm »

I'm a tagger.  I love when my MP3s are nicely tagged with all the proper information, linked to their cover art and filled with lyrics and notes.  And MC is great for doing that...but it could be slightly better.

I'm curious as to how complient with the current ID3v2 version MC is ?  Does it cover all of the tags implimented in version 4, or are there some tags that it simply doesn't recognize.  If anyone can give me an overview of how this is handled, or whether there are plans to improve it are in the cards before work on 10.1 begins, it'd be very appreciative.

IF ID3v2.4 is completely covered by MC, though, I'd like to suggest an option for the field creation system.  Would it be possible to get an additional window where users could define the library fields directly to the tags of the MP3s?  I know certain ones are automatic (Name, Title, Album, etc.) but I'd like to be able to directly link the more obscure stuff too (Composer, Involved People, Content Type, etc.)
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Re:Tagging questions
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2004, 08:25:04 pm »

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Re:Tagging questions
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2004, 09:21:36 pm »

There's no way to map a field name to an MP3 frame ID currently, but it may be something we could add to 10.1.

If there are specific fields you want mapped right now, let us know.  We may be able to code a few into 10.0. (several are already there, so if you create a field with the same name, they'll line up)

Thanks.
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Re:Tagging questions
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2004, 09:32:56 pm »

Thank you for the quick response.

My main concerns at the moment are TCON (Content Type which covers Remixes & Covers) and TDRC (Recording Time).  I've already got a similar field for TCON in my library, and I'm trying to do a work-around for my date field troubles with TDRC.  If those are already covered by MC, then I'm probably set.
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Re:Tagging questions
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2004, 11:04:30 am »

Hi Matt,

I've posted several requests along this line. Let me know if you need the list again.

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Re:Tagging questions
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2004, 03:12:43 pm »

There's no way to map a field name to an MP3 frame ID currently, but it may be something we could add to 10.1.

If there are specific fields you want mapped right now, let us know.  We may be able to code a few into 10.0. (several are already there, so if you create a field with the same name, they'll line up)

Thanks.

Would it be possible to get a list of the already included tags ?
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Re:Tagging questions
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2004, 03:38:46 pm »

For individual files you can...

Click on the file and in AW click on File Properties>File Type Info. Works on ogg, mp3, mpc, and ape but sadly...not flac. Sounds like your looking for a master tag list that MC writes. If you googled "mp3 specs" or something to that affect, you should find something...my bet is that it writes all the tags spec'd by ID3v1 at a minimum (and writing tags to other formats follows suit).

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Re:Tagging questions
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2004, 04:09:32 pm »

For individual files you can...

Click on the file and in AW click on File Properties>File Type Info. Works on ogg, mp3, mpc, and ape but sadly...not flac. Sounds like your looking for a master tag list that MC writes. If you googled "mp3 specs" or something to that affect, you should find something...my bet is that it writes all the tags spec'd by ID3v1 at a minimum (and writing tags to other formats follows suit).

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Yeah, the master list is what I'm after.  I'm pretty sure that MC writes at least as currently as the first version of ID3v2, but I don't really know how to test that.
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Re:Tagging questions
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2004, 04:21:12 pm »

We write all the database fields flagged with "save in tag" to an MP3's ID3v2 tag.

The question is just where the field gets stored. (the ID3v2 frame ID)

If we don't know how to map a field, it gets added as a user comment.

We map these user created fields to the corresponding ID3v2 frame:
  • All stock fields
  • Conductor
  • Composer
  • Lyricist
  • Original Lyricist
  • Original Artist
  • Initial Key
  • Subtitle
  • MusicMatch_* (MusicMatch specific fields)


Any other field is stored as a comment.
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Re:Tagging questions
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2004, 04:31:47 pm »

We write all the database fields flagged with "save in tag" to an MP3's ID3v2 tag.

The question is just where the field gets stored. (the ID3v2 frame ID)

If we don't know how to map a field, it gets added as a user comment.

We map these user created fields to the corresponding ID3v2 frame:
  • All stock fields
  • Conductor
  • Composer
  • Lyricist
  • Original Lyricist
  • Original Artist
  • Initial Key
  • Subtitle
  • MusicMatch_* (MusicMatch specific fields)


Any other field is stored as a comment.

Thank you!  I'll be able to use a few of those.
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2004, 08:55:40 pm »

If I have a song named "01m 4.5 Basic"
how do I tell MC to remove the first to characters,
so I'll get "m 4.5 Basic" ?

I hae 15 tracks to correct.


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