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[Topper]

Having ripped (if that's the right word) all my old vinyl and now started on old cassettes I've had a chance to listen to a lot of old tracks reproduced through the wonders of HD storage and MJ. The thing is even though ripping and cleaning up old vinyl is not an exact science (in fact it's somewhat closer to alchemy) the sound I'm getting from that old vinyl seems to have a lot more depth, feeling, warmth etc than any CD that I've got on my system.

Anyway the question is has anyone else noticed this or is it just me being nostalgic and using the "ah they don't make'm like they used to" routine.

Just interested.

[Graham]

Strangely, I had the very same feeling...

...but, of course, they DON'T make 'em like that any more!

[Xstatic]

Topper, I am interested in knowing which program (if any) you used for cleaning up clicks and stuff from the lp's?

I use wave corrector, and think it is allright, but I am always searching for even better solutions :-)

[Topper]

I've been using Steinberg Clean and it works ok for me, but like you xstatic i'm always looking for the program that does it a little better or easier. The only exception is media palyers and for that i'm an MJ man through and through.

[lee269]

I use Cooledit 2000 with the Noise Reduction and Clickfix plugins. Not the cheapest solution, but gives you ultimate control over your wavs. Ive been known to spend hours picking over a favourite LP trying to remove every tiny imperfection... but I listen mostly to the mp3s I create once Ive burned the results, so I couldnt say whether they sound better. Thats what you get with MJ and a smallish hard disk I guess  

BTW http://www.syntrillium.com forums contain masters of audio cleanup if its advice you want.

[zevele10]

Because you get your music on AAD=analogue -analogue -digital
Cds are in DDD.
Digital is more metallic ,analog is more warm.
Because of it some artists did put AAD records and not DDD. Like Lou Reed.But i do not know if he his still doing it.
Digital is crap like anything on a computer.
I still buy vinyl ,i mean new one -last Sonic Youth,Byrds reedition.
In anther hand it can be nice to have the songs on  your coputer.
Most of the time i use P2p for it

[zevele10]

Charlemagne8 has a very good program .
But  do not remeber the name

[phelt]

I usually use Diamond Cut Audio Restoration Tools. Sometimes I run into more troublesome clicks/pops and I edit the WAV manually with Sound Forge.

[Rusty]

Charlemagne8 uses WAVE PURITY.

Check it out at www.wavepurity.com

It's German & is extremely good.  You can download both a LIGHT Version & a DEMO Version for FREE.

To get a fully featured working Vesion, probably the best is the PROFESSIONAL Version which costs 45 Euro's.

Cheers - Rusty.

[khaos100]

I believe it's more laziness on the part of whoever masters the CD.  Some of the stuff from the seventies that sold under the "Nice Price" for awhile were complete nuts.  However if somone takes the time to master the CD correctly, I believe it becomes superior to anything an album can offer.  My Hendrix CD and the 2 recent Stones CDs (12x5 and Aftermath) are perfect examples of this.

[Mastiff]

The so called Diamond effect that reared it's head in the beginning of the CD era turned out to be the absence of noise. My guess is that if you're used to a little of the sparkling camp fire (like I was for a long time) the psychoacustic effect is what makes ripped vinyl sound better than ripped CD's.

[zevele10]

My Hendrix CD and the 2 recent Stones CDs (12x5 and Aftermath) are perfect examples of this.

You are right.Because they used clean masters ,new mix [original ones for some Stones]

Hendrix :
My UK original UK pressing is much beter than my  french one
My original Us is better than my UK

My german reedition is much better than the 3 others

First Cd edition is sh-i-t
Second cd edition is still not better than the lps ones.

The cd edition you speak about is just GREAT

BUT
The same edition than the cd from analog tapes on virgin180 grammes vinyl is 10 times better than the cd.

[brickf]

Can any of you comment more on your setup for ripping your vinyl? Like how you interface between the turntable and computer to get the best rips. I'm assuming you are all using MJ for recording?
Thanks

[phelt]

brickf:
quite a few pages on the topic show up in a Google search for LP to CD

[Xstatic]

Thanks Rusty for the link to wavepurity.

I tried it, and it is better than wavecorrector.

[zevele10]

here the definitive document -according to general opinion

http://www.delback.co.uk/lp-cdr.htm

[brickf]

thanks. I'll check it out.