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[cjudge]

I searched everywhere but found no answers, so here it is.

I had a collection of APE files I ripped from my CDs using dbPowerAmp's CD Input.  The files were pristine and had full APE tag info.

I imported them into MC 9.1 (latest stable build) and did things like add cover art.  Now when I try to look at the APE tags they are gone.  In fact, I had to remove some files from the collection because of weird bahavior, when I readded them, they had no tagging info to read!  What's going on?

Futhermore, I ripped a CD directly using MC 9.1 and again no use of the standard APE tags.  Does MC 9.1. use it's own tagging format?  If so, why does it get lost in a re-import? Is it not stored in the file itself? Please help, I really love MC 9.1 but this may be a problem unless I can resolve it.

[kiwi]

Are they gone in MC 9.1 or only when you use other programs?  MC 9.1 creates APE tags for me.  I think that the issue might be that the tags it creates could be APE v2 tags?  (that's purely hypothetical)   maybe that causes the issue.

[LisaRCT]

Go To:
Options - - >>  General - - >> Importing & Tagging - ->>
"Update tags when file info changes" Needs to be Checked

Was it?

[Marko]

This seems a good time to mention something that's been niggling away at me for a while (well a couple of weeks anyway).

After d'loading the monkey's audio software for a look-see, I get a new context menu option in explorer that says "file info (MAC)"

Here's my findings using that option...
If I use the resultant dialogue to set tags, then open up MC and do an update from file, it reads in any changes I made. If I then make a tag change within MC and update file from library, then the "file info (MAC)" dialogue will always report all fields as empty.

Why is that if both monkey's audio and MC are using the most current versions?

Just curious is all;)

[cjudge]

Kiwi,

I think they are gone everywhere.  I think Marko has a great example, even Monkey's own MAC doesn't see the tags, whereas, the APE files that I had before the import to MC 9.1 showed those tags.

LisaRCT,

That option was always enabled all along.

Marko,

This is where I first saw the problem.  Re-importing selections I removed from the Media Library was the second place (the tags were missing).  I'd like to here more about the tagging format and approach from JRiver.

[rocketsauce]

Which version of MA do you have installed? 3.97 or 3.98? I think the problem might be that 3.97 only reads and writes APE Tags and MC9.x reads APE/APE2 and writes APE2 Tags. Also, I think, if you import files that have APE tags and then make changes to them in MC, the tags are converted to APE2.

Rob

[cjudge]

That did it Rob.  I installed MAC 3.98 Alpha 1 and the tags are readable.  I still don't know what the problem is reimporting into MC 9.1.  But at least one problem is resolved.  Thanks!

[Matt]

The tags are there.  It's just that Media Center is ahead of Monkey's Audio. (MC uses APEv2 tags, and Monkey's Audio 3.97 uses APEv1 tags)

I'm hoping to find the time to get a new release of Monkey's Audio out, but it shouldn't really matter if you just use MC for your APE stuff. (it's always the most up-to-date APE program)

-Matt (aka monkey)

[xen-uno]

Initially I was having probs and was going to ask Matt about it. Have ironed it out so this is FYI...

Using this command line with EAC (0.95pb5):

%d -t "Artist=%a" -t "Title=%t" -t "Album=%g" -t "Comment=EAC: ape 3.99>" -t "Year=%y" -t "Track=%n" -t "Genre=%m" mac.exe %s %d -c3000

Wapet.exe is stored in D:\Monkeys dir along with mac.exe (latest 3.99)

MC10 149 sees the ape2 tags...

Monkey's Audio 3.99 (high)
Format: 44.1 khz, 16 bit, 2 ch
Length: 2:12
Compression: 51.56% (11.5 MB / 22.3 MB)
Tag: APE Tag 2.00 (219 bytes)
   Artist: Led Zeppelin
   Title: Black Mountain Side
   Album: I
   Comment: EAC: ape 3.99>
   Year: 1969
   Track: 6
   Genre: Rock

All EAC options related to ID3 tagging turned off.  Parameter Passing is set to User Defined and extension to ape. Program...used for compression is set to wapet.exe

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