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zeltak

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is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« on: September 12, 2004, 07:25:13 am »

hi guys!

i have a zen for 2 months now and the player itself is great. the only thing i still havnt figured out is how to have smartlists..i mean when i transfer the mc playlists (and smartlists) in the zen i can only see it by the normal way (that is by album , artist,genere etc..) is there a way to have mc smartlists in the zen or do i have to have a diffrent playlist for each one in mc and then get lots of double files which would be a real waste of space.. ?

thx alot

Zeltak
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SteveG

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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2004, 08:47:39 am »

Zeltak,

What version of MC do you have? Are you using synchronization to move your playlists to Zen (right click on the Zen in MC 10 or use the Action Window in MC 11 to use synchronization).

Steve
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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2004, 01:17:56 pm »

hi steve!

what I mean is that if for example I transfer 3 playlists form mc: one with all 5 star tracks, one with only mellow mood in the mood colum and one with 3 4 and 5 rate tracks. and i have a song that appears in all of them (lets say nights in white satin by the moody blues) will it appear 3 times in the zen hard disk or does the zen know when i play the 5 star playlist or the mellow mode playlist to automaticly "fetch" it from the hard drive

thx alot again

Zeltak
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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2004, 03:37:12 pm »

Zeltak,

The file will exist on the player one time and be accessed from each of the playlists.

Steve
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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2004, 06:00:38 pm »

SteveG, does the sync in MC 11 work with the Zen now?  I was told to hold off for a later release?
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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2004, 09:24:52 am »

TXgary,

It should work. Another somewhat major revision is coming soon.

Steve
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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2004, 11:30:01 am »

I will probably wait unless it would help you if I tried.  I continue to use 10 and do sync to it. So I generally have to delete all files on the zen when I try to sync with 11.  That does not take much time, but it certainly takes a while to reload from 10 as I load around 6,000+
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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2004, 05:00:57 pm »

Thanks for the offer. Just wait for the next version of 11 which has the changes and we can go from there.

Steve
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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2004, 06:46:45 pm »

Thanks for the offer. Just wait for the next version of 11 which has the changes and we can go from there.

Steve, is that 11.0.83 (released an hour after you posted) or the one after?

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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2004, 07:32:13 pm »

Hi Steve

Usising build .082, the tracks sync but the playlists don't. This is on a new MC11 install (no plugin previously installed)
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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2004, 11:23:36 am »

funnyguy,

How are you initiating the sync? Are you selecting 'Sync Playlists' in the AW? When you right click on the Zen in the tree, do you see an option for 'Synchronize files'?

Steve
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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2004, 11:52:42 am »

Hi Steve. Yes (through the AW) and yes (I see and use the synchronize option), but I'm not forcing a convert. I'll try that tonight.

At the end I get an error that the playlist can't sync, and a list of files. I think (but I'm not sure) that all of these files are in an unsupported format, which is why I thought that the format had something to do with the playlist not syncing. Again, I'll let you know asap.
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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2004, 03:47:19 pm »

funnyguy,

This for sure is a part of your problem. Force conversion will allow files to convert during the transfer to your player. Check the box for 'Skip conversions of same file type' if you do not want to convert files which are already of a type that Zen supports.

Keep in mind, once files are on the Zen, they will not retransfer when you sync.

Steve
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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2004, 04:51:33 pm »

Thanks Steve, I'll try it out asap.

One suggestion though - in the dialog box, perhaps "force" should be replaced by "enable".  That would be clearer (for me at least!)
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Re:is it possible to have smartlists like mc in the Zen?
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2004, 09:21:19 am »

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One suggestion though - in the dialog box, perhaps "force" should be replaced by "enable".  That would be clearer (for me at least!)

This is done. Thanks for the suggestion.

Steve
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