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MarkCoutinho

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Convert ram to mp3
« on: February 21, 2006, 03:05:04 pm »

I've tried to convert ram to mp3 in MC but to no avail. MC says: "You may not have installed on your computer DirectShow filters for decoding the type of file you are trying to play. Please install appropriate filters and try again"

Fine.
But where and how do I do this?
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Re: Convert ram to mp3
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2006, 08:54:40 pm »

Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by "Convert ram to mp3"?
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Re: Convert ram to mp3
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2006, 10:38:07 pm »

model - ram = Real Audio Media

I'm assuming he has some Real-formatted files he wants to convert to MP3s.  I don't think you can do this from inside MC, which relies on the codec to complete the translation.  Real has no intention of ever letting you convert those files to some other format, as they want you to stay locked in and keep using their player.  You can use other applications to convert them though.  Check this thread at the Ars Technica forums for more info on doing that.  You could also google for ra2wav.exe which supposedly can handle it.
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Re: Convert ram to mp3
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2006, 03:11:06 am »

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model - ram = Real Audio Media

Thanx, Glynor, I kinda thought so but wasn't sure, I haven't used anything Real in soooo long. ;)
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Re: Convert ram to mp3
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2006, 04:18:10 am »

Hmm I thought there was some progress on this about a month
ago, using the directshow filters or some such thing.  I think MC maybe able to do it...
Heres a forum link

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Re: Convert ram to mp3
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2006, 04:41:17 am »

After the recent changes MC should use Direct Show for decoding Real Media audio files. I have a few low bitrate Real files that I could analyze and and convert after the changes were made a few weeks ago.

I tried it again now. I can play and convert them, but two of the files are completely silent when they are played or converted. Rather strange.

Here is the playback log. I think it looks normal:

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0032125: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Start
0032125: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Handling exclusive playback zones
0032140: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Getting actual playback track
0032140: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Processing play for 'X:\Yello\RAM Clips\interview.ram'
0032140: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Updating internal track info
0032140: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Updating mixer
0032140: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Updating filename
0032140: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Playing: X:\Yello\RAM Clips\interview.ram / ram
0032672: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Play succeeded
0032672: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Finish (547 ms)
0363984: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Start
0363984: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking for invalid position
0363984: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Attempting next chapter
0363984: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking for next disabled
0363984: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking for display / internal mismatch
0363984: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking can play next state
0363984: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Updating position
0363984: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Play
0363984: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Start
0364000: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Handling exclusive playback zones
0364000: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Getting actual playback track
0364000: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Processing play for 'X:\Yello\RAM Clips\live.ram'
0364000: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Updating internal track info
0364000: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Updating mixer
0364000: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Updating filename
0364000: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Playing: X:\Yello\RAM Clips\live.ram / ram
0371437: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Play succeeded
0371437: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Finish (7453 ms)
0371437: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Applying database changes
0371437: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Finish (7453 ms)
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Start
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking for invalid position
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Attempting next chapter
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking for next disabled
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking for display / internal mismatch
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking can play next state
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Updating position
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Play
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Start
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Handling exclusive playback zones
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Getting actual playback track
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Processing play for 'X:\Yello\RAM Clips\resistor.ram'
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Updating internal track info
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Updating mixer
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Updating filename
0472578: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Playing: X:\Yello\RAM Clips\resistor.ram / ram
0473125: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Play succeeded
0473125: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Finish (547 ms)
0473125: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Applying database changes
0473125: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Finish (547 ms)
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Start
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking for invalid position
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Attempting next chapter
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking for next disabled
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking for display / internal mismatch
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking can play next state
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Updating position
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Play
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Start
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Handling exclusive playback zones
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Getting actual playback track
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Processing play for 'X:\Yello\RAM Clips\shesgotagun.ram'
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Updating internal track info
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Updating mixer
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Updating filename
0556500: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Playing: X:\Yello\RAM Clips\shesgotagun.ram / ram
0564265: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Play succeeded
0564265: Playback: CPlayerZone::Play: Finish (7765 ms)
0564265: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Applying database changes
0564265: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Finish (7765 ms)
0601812: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Start
0601812: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking for invalid position
0601812: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Attempting next chapter
0601812: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking for next disabled
0601812: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking for display / internal mismatch
0601812: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Checking can play next state
0601812: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Next track not playable
0601812: Playback: CPlayerZone::Next: Finish (0 ms)
0609172: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Start
0609172: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Checking for not loaded playback engine
0609172: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Checking for time-shifting
0609172: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Firing stop to playback engine
0609297: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Processing intnernal previous / next
0609297: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Clearing display info
0609297: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Updating statistics
0609297: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Updating playback state
0609297: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Updating UI
0609297: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Applying database changes
0609297: Playback: CPlayerZone::Stop: Finish (125 ms)

The two files in the middle are silent. Media Player Classic (Real Alternative) can play the files fine. Here are the test files: RAMtestfiles.rar (3 MB).


In any case transcoding from a lossy format to another lossy format should be avoided if possible. The audio quality will further decrease.
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Att: Yaobing (Convert ram to mp3)
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2006, 09:17:02 am »

Yaobing,

Have you tried the test files?
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Att: Yaobing (Convert ram to mp3)
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2006, 02:03:30 pm »

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Re: Convert ram to mp3
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2006, 06:38:35 pm »

I tried the four files.

Initially, when importing them, two of them (resitor, shesgotagun) were not imported as audio. They were documents. When trying to play them, RealPlayer got fired up.

I do not know what was wrong then. But after doing an "Update library (from tags)", they went to their rightful place.

Now all four files play fine.
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Re: Convert ram to mp3
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2006, 06:44:11 pm »

I converted all of them to mp3. No problem. The new files play just fine.
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Re: Convert ram to mp3
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2006, 06:55:32 pm »

I've tried to convert ram to mp3 in MC but to no avail. MC says: "You may not have installed on your computer DirectShow filters for decoding the type of file you are trying to play. Please install appropriate filters and try again"

Fine.
But where and how do I do this?

Download and register Realmedia Splitter filter from

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&package_id=87719

After unpacking it, you will find identically named files in two folders:
Release\RealmediaSplitter.ax and
Release Unicode\RealmediaSplitter.ax

Register the unicode version by issuing the following command from Start -> Run:

regsvr32 "<path where the files are unpacked>\Release Unicode\RealmediaSplitter.ax"
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Re: Convert ram to mp3
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2006, 06:57:30 pm »

I tried the four files.

Initially, when importing them, two of them (resitor, shesgotagun) were not imported as audio. They were documents. When trying to play them, RealPlayer got fired up.

I do not know what was wrong then. But after doing an "Update library (from tags)", they went to their rightful place.

Now all four files play fine.

In my library they were as audio.

Anyway, "Update library (from tags)" fixed the problem. Thanks.
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