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Otto's Gone Schizo
jgreen:
Well, I know it's a watch folder, but Otto's the one watching it. Now, why does the interface for the WatchFolder (a very good interface) have to be different from the interface for manual import? (which is very good.) I think in the spirit of consistency and ease of use you ought to combine the two into one, since they are doing the same thing.
glynor:
But I want to be able to set up one set of folders and have Otto watch them, and a different set of folders to run my imports manually... ?
Matt:
They actually share the same folder configuration dialog.
Otto has a list of folders.
Manual picks one folder.
jgreen:
Er, as I just noticed, manual import is gone completely. There is no tools/import media, just tools/add folder. So otto isn't schiz, he's gone and had a change. So while you can right click/import, you can no longer do a manual import through the menu, which I don't necessarily have a problem with, now that Otto's consistent again. Glynor, you might want to scream.
EDIT: yes Matt, I see that now. Looks good, IMO.
glynor:
--- Quote from: jgreen on June 29, 2006, 04:10:06 pm ---Glynor, you might want to scream.
--- End quote ---
Yeah. I'm really not into that at all. I do NOT want to have the same set of folders automatically scanned in the background as the set that I run my manual import on. Actually, I'd want to just have a subset of all of the manual ones "watched".
This is for a very good reason. I have a folder called "New" (actually I have a bunch of them, but bear with me)... That's where I download most of my "new" files pre-tagging, and save them until they are all processed and collated. Then I use the Rename Files from Properties tool to move them. This process often involves Format Conversion. Many of the live shows I download come in FLAC or SHN format. Personally, my ears aren't good enough to tell the difference between a FLAC file and a LAME MP3 encoded using -V 1 --vbr-new, so I convert all my FLACs and SHNs over to MP3 before I move them to my main library (at M:/music).
I would like Otto to monitor "M:/music/" for any new files (in case I put stuff in there manually using EAC for example, which I know are already properly tagged), but not "N:/new". If I have it "Watch" the new folder, then it will re-import the FLACs or SHNs after I've converted them but before I've gotten around to tagging them. I like to hang onto the source FLAC files until I'm sure the MP3s are good and in the right place (and then I delete them). Another example is that I might download a bunch of single-use video files to my N:/new/ directory that I don't want to ever end up in MC because I'm going to watch them once and delete them (or add them to a different library).
So, I need to be able to manually run my search INCLUDING my "excludes" and large sets of different folders, just as it was in MC 11.1's "Import Media" tool and designate some of those folders as "watched" but others not.
That's how other applications do it, and it's really the only system I can see working well. Sure, I can manually initiate an import on a specific folder with this system, but how can I exclude folders and files (such as my Incomplete folder under N:/new/)? Like I mentioned here, I currently have 23 folders listed in my MC 11.1 "Import Media" dialog (because as I said, there isn't just one central "new" folder like in my example, there's a bunch of them for different media types on different machines and drives). I probably only want a subset of 4-5 of these to be "Watched", and be able to save the big list to run the manual import on the rest. Even if you come up with a way to exclude certain files, manually running the import on 13 folders one at a time (basically every day for me) is really not an option.
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