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Tree View Oddities
datdude:
Two things that have always buged me about the tree/action window view:
1) Can't view items vertically full screen.
2) Can't save items such as playing now or tag info and sticky them permanently.
MC through its complicated system is trying to do too much, too perfectly, with too many user based assumptions, and instead should eliminate this mess and allow the users to do what they want through more customizations and less controlling based navigation. Just open things up a bit, just like you did with view schemes, thats what makes MC so great.
Doof:
FWIW, I don't much care about the little triangle indicator things.
What I do care about is consistency. If you single click on anything other than Audio, Images, Video or Documents, it will automatically open up to show you all of the child nodes. But for the top four, a single click won't do that. For consistency's sake, they should all behave the same way (one way or the other). Once that's done, the little arrow things are nothing more than a visual indicator that the item can be collapsed or expanded.
And I also agree that Playing Now needs a much more prominent role in things. Personally, I'd rip it out of the tree and make it the topmost level item, always there and never moving. Then below that have Audio, Images, Videos, and Documents.
glynor:
--- Quote from: Doof on July 06, 2006, 07:46:08 am ---Once that's done, the little arrow things are nothing more than a visual indicator that the item can be collapsed or expanded.
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That's not all they're good for. You can use the arrows to expand the items in the tree without changing the currently displayed view on the right-hand pane of the window. This is essential for using the tree for tagging, as I explained in this thread.
If you eliminate the arrows, and the only way to expand the tree items was to actually "open" each node of the tree, it would ruin the tree's very useful drag-n-drop functionality. Generally, when I'm "tree-tagging" I have one of my "Recently Imported" view schemes open in details view on the right hand pane, and then I expand items on the tree (without "opening" them) and drag-drop files from the right pane onto the tree. If the arrows were eliminated, I wouldn't be able to look at my Recently Imported view scheme on the right and explore the different nodes on the tree on the left.
Marty3d:
--- Quote from: glynor on July 06, 2006, 09:02:43 am ---That's not all they're good for. You can use the arrows to expand the items in the tree without changing the currently displayed view on the right-hand pane of the window. This is essential for using the tree for tagging, as I explained in this thread.
If you eliminate the arrows, and the only way to expand the tree items was to actually "open" each node of the tree, it would ruin the tree's very useful drag-n-drop functionality. Generally, when I'm "tree-tagging" I have one of my "Recently Imported" view schemes open in details view on the right hand pane, and then I expand items on the tree (without "opening" them) and drag-drop files from the right pane onto the tree. If the arrows were eliminated, I wouldn't be able to look at my Recently Imported view scheme on the right and explore the different nodes on the tree on the left.
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I do this as well, so yes, the arrows mean alot...if they just were all left-aligned, I'd be a happy camper.
Doof:
Ah, good point. I hadn't thought it that far through.
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