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benn600

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Deinterlacing capability?
« on: August 24, 2006, 02:50:25 pm »

I ripped my DVDs at native mode because my various tests never revealed a satisfying alternative to me.  When I watch the video on a television, it looks fine.  On my computer, I can use the deinterlacing capability built in to VLC but would like to know what MC has for deinterlacing?  It would be great if there was a way to set a checkbox to whether or not deinterlacing should be used.
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Re: Deinterlacing capability?
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2006, 03:29:16 pm »

If you use FFDSHOW as the decode filter for your Video playback, you can enable/disable deinterlacing with a simple checkbox from within it's interface.  Changes take effect on the fly.

You can also pick which deinterlace method you want to use from a huge list of possible options.



By the way.... VLC uses the same decode filters as FFDSHOW (the ones from the FFMPEG project).  VLC is kind of like a media player with FFDSHOW built in.

Check over my comments here:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=34695.msg236666#msg236666

and here:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=34589.msg236155#msg236155

And unfortunately, this post was made on the MC12 Beta forum so not everyone can get to it, but I discussed my feelings on the best place to obtain FFDSHOW here:

I'm sure you put this somewhere.
I mentioned in the thread When Otto Works Badly
that I was getting crashes during Thumbnail regeneration
I tried going back to 12.0.28 and still got the crashes.
So Now I've uninstalled FFDShow (Nov 29th 2005 Build)
and reinstalled DIVX, and crashes have stopped.
I'm wondering which version of FFDShow would be the most stable?
Cheers
Chris.

The safest place to get current builds of FFDSHOW is on the FFDSHOW Wiki here.  I've been using the ffdshow-20051129.exe build for some time and it's been fine.  These daily builds do require an SSE capable processor, but if you don't have one of those you've really got other problems anyway...

Celtic_Druid generally also has great builds of FFDSHOW here:
http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/xvid/

However, if you want to really walk on the cutting edge, then check these places:

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/FFDShow.htm
http://x264.nl/

A warning though... Even though the current "daily" builds are sometimes stable, as the "head" developer stated here, they aren't really generally stable enough for him to even release an "official" build.  I have tried out the current 2546 builds (both SSE and SSE2) and had problems with MPEG2 playback on the system.  I have used some of Celtic_Druid's builds from 20060405 on my various systems without issue, but I'd steer clear of the brand new one for now.
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Re: Deinterlacing capability?
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2006, 03:46:05 pm »

How do I access that interface box?  Do I have to go through VLC?
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Re: Deinterlacing capability?
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2006, 04:02:16 pm »

Nope.  If you have FFDSHOW installed (and it is set to be your decode filter for the particular media type -- which is done during it's install process), you will get a little FFDSHOW icon in your notification area (those little icons down by the clock) while you are playing back any FFDSHOW handled media.  Double click on the icon and the settings dialog will come up (or right click and choose settings or something like that). You can also access the decoder settings via the Start menu (under the FFDSHOW folder), but the settings there will only work if you are using FFDSHOW to play media back.

VLC includes a built-in version of the same filters included in FFDSHOW that are accessable from within VLC, but does not actually include FFDSHOW.  It's filters are only usable from within VLC.  FFDSHOW lets you use those same filters (and more) with basically any DirectShow capable media player (including Media Player Classic, WiMP, and MC).

If you're not sure what filters you're using to play back video files, then I'd probably just download FFDSHOW-20051129 from the Wiki page and install it.  When you're going through the install process, make sure to select all the appropriate video codecs on the Video Decoder page of the install.  I generally just select them all and check "Set for All Users".  If the video you're using is pure MPEG-2 rips from a DVD, then you'll need to select MPEG2 (which is NOT checked by default).  If you've compressed it to XviD or DivX or something similar, you'll want to check those boxes (though they should be by default).  Once you do this, then FFDSHOW will handle playback of those video types (as opposed to other codecs and filters you may have installed on your computer).

FFDSHOW also includes an Audio Decoder, which contains it's own playback processing engine.  You can also choose (on the next install screen) to have FFDSHOW handle audio playback processing as well.  If you do, and you happen to have a multichannel sound system connected to your PC, make sure to go into the FFDSHOW audio filter controls.  By default FFDSHOW's audio decoder downmixes everything to 2 channel stereo.  It's easy to set it to 5.1 though.
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