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[Magic_Randy]

To the best of my knowledge once you sell the cd you don't have any legal right to the copy - fair use laws only cover you if you own the product

I did not know that - but it sounds logical

All of my MP3s exist on CD that I own (and have kept).  In a small number of cases the CD were copied from LPs, but in those cases I have the LPs as well.

Is dlone correct in his assumption?  I'm sure this effects a lot of people.

[hit_ny]

My thoughts exactly, there is a right of re-sale on CDs (the most viable reason to get them as opposed to digital downloads IMO).

Since when have teenagers shyed away from "obviously suspicious illegal activity"

[dlone]

It affects me a lot 
I've got a lot of ripped tracks that 'technically' I don't own anymore
But only because some thieving git stole the origionals

With no Cd, no receipts anymore - legally I'm in a no win situation - the only thing I have to fall back on is a police report of stolen goods, but they're never taken at face value - if they were you could illegallly download all the stuff you liked and then report it as stolen

The laws are tougher than you might think - just they're not enforced usually
For example, if you drive your car down the high street playing music loud enough that people can hear it (assume 20 or so people can hear it) then your breaking copyright laws as you do not have the right to play music in a public venue - that's why pubs/clubs have to be licenced to play music

Thinking of it like this may explain it

If you do anything to deprive them of profit your breaking the law
You buy the cd for $5 - ok
You copy it onto your pc -ok
You sell the cd for $3 and keep the copy - bad

You have cost them money - instead of them earning the cash, you have it
They should have sold 2 cd's but instead only sold one - with a bit going into your pocket not theirs

[Magic_Randy]

It affects me a lot 
I've got a lot of ripped tracks that 'technically' I don't own anymore
But only because some thieving git stole the origionals

For what it’s worth – you have MP3s that were ripped from CDs you owned.  These should be considered legitimate backups.  That fact that they were stolen does mean you do not own them – you just no longer have possession of them.  Your MP3s should be in the clear.

All that being said – I don’t know how this can really be enforced.

[dlone]

All that being said – I don’t know how this can really be enforced.

Yup - as both scenarios look the same the burden of proof is on me, but I'm damned if I'm going to buy them again  I've already bought some of them 3 times

[Magic_Randy]

Only 3 times?

Some of mine I purchased 4 times:

LP
8 Track
Cassette
CD

I ripped to MP3, so I won’t count them.

[dlone]

  I skipped the 8track

[enervation]

With no Cd, no receipts anymore - legally I'm in a no win situation - the only thing I have to fall back on is a police report of stolen goods, but they're never taken at face value - if they were you could illegallly download all the stuff you liked and then report it as stolen

However, they would have to prove that you obtained it illegally - which they can't do in this case. So you're fine! The burden of providing proof falls on the accuser, not the defendant.

[dlone]

Only if I could afford a good lawyer 

[benn600]

You are only allowed to keep backup copies while you own the original.  By returning the CD, you are canceling your right to listen to the contents of the disc.

[mieko]

For the record, over the last 22 years i've bought and own around 2,500 Japanese Import CD's
(Around $50,000 there ) and about 1,500 Domestic CD's (Around $16,000 there) For a grand total
of $66,000 over 22 years.

If ya real bored you can see my CD directory for 80 percent of my Japanese Import CD Collection here:
http://mewfdojins.com/Dorama/DoramaHome.htm
In the CD Collection 1 & 2 Icons.