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Can someone explain "Shuffle automatic" to me? Please...

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glynor:
It looks like you're pretty clear now, but just in case, I'll let Matt explain... (From the Beta board):


--- Quote from: Matt on May 29, 2007, 08:21:44 pm ---When you play something with a mixture of artists and albums, it'll shuffle.  Think picking "Classic Rock" from Theater View or the panes.  In this case, there's no good reason to always start with Abba. (even though Abba starts with A)

If you play a single artist, album, or start at a specific file (like a double-click in a list), it won't shuffle.

--- End quote ---

StFeder:

--- Quote from: glynor on June 05, 2007, 04:56:23 pm ---It looks like you're pretty clear now, but just in case, I'll let Matt explain... (From the Beta board):


--- End quote ---

Thank you. Now I'm clear :-)

skeeterfood:

--- Quote from: eba on June 05, 2007, 04:43:50 pm ---That's quite cool...
What would also be nice would be if you could do 'Add (shuffle into remaining)', which would add the selected files, then shuffle everything below the currently playing track.

--- End quote ---

I've been requesting this for a long time.  Guess the JR guys either always listen to full albums, or select everything they're going to listen to before they add it shuffled...

I still don't understand why Shuffle (non-automatic) mode doesn't work like this:
1) Select a bunch of files/albums/... and Play
-> Files are shuffled and replace current Playing Now
2) Play a few/many files
3) Select some more files/albums and Add to Playing Now
-> Files are shuffled into remaining un-played files
I'm in shuffle mode, I want my music shuffled...

What good is the current mode?
1) Select a bunch of files/albums/... and Play
-> Files are shuffled and replace current Playing Now
2) Play a few/many files
3) Select some more files/albums and Add to Playing Now, or Add (shuffled)
-> The Selected Files are shuffled and added to end of Playing Now
What kind of shuffle is that?

3a) Select some more files/albums and Add (shuffle all)
-> The Selected Files are added to Playing Now and the whole thing is shuffled
Great, now I get to listen to all those songs again.

3b)  Select some more files/albums and Add to Playing Now
-> The Selected Files are shuffled and added to end of Playing Now
4b) Select all the files in Playing Now after the currently playing track, right-click and select Shuffle
-> All files are re-shuffled, not just the selection.  Maybe it should be called "Shuffle All"
Not intuitive.  I thought a right-click was the "context" menu.  I guess sometimes the context is the selected files and sometime it's all of Playing Now?

3c)  Select some more files/albums and Add to Playing Now
-> The Selected Files are shuffled and added to end of Playing Now
4c) Select all the played files in Playing Now and remove them
5c) Shuffle
-> Finally, what I wanted, but that's a pain.

-John

glynor:
I agree Skeeterfood, so long as they DON'T change the behavior of Add to Playing Now (as Next To Play), because I use that in combination with Shuffled lists all the time (for special requests).  Otherwise, I'd say your proposition of changing Add To Playing Now so that when Shuffle mode is enabled, should shuffle the tracks into the tracks from the currently playing track down (not including the ones that have likely already played), is a great one!

Matt:
There's normally no such thing as "unplayed files".  The player loops.

Use reshuffle (Ctrl+R) to reshuffle everything.

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