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damian_pentney:
Ok my 10 cents on this. I'm using 12.0.529. In "Play Radio" mode keep getting tracks from the same artist playing way to frequently to be random, so I ran a test:

My library has approx 100,000 albums, and 1.8m tracks.
I started a fresh library, set all ratings to Null, set all plays to Null
Ran Play Radio

I'm 60 mins in at this point and three Albums have repeated themselves in that period (ie not artist, but Album repeating).In a popluation like this, surely that's not random.

Now I could understand if tracks from certain Artists that I have a concentration of played more often...for example I have a couple of artists with 50+ Albums (I like Maddonna and Frank Sinatra ;) ). But the repeating Albums referred to above are seemingly random (no more than 3 Album s per artist, not played in over 2 years).

....oh in the few mintues it took me to write this, we can add one more cycle of repeats from the same Albums. aaaaaggggghhhhh!!!

Go figure.....

Matt:

--- Quote from: damian_pentney on August 23, 2008, 04:00:29 pm ---Ok my 10 cents on this. I'm using 12.0.529. In "Play Radio" mode keep getting tracks from the same artist playing way to frequently to be random, so I ran a test:

My library has approx 100,000 albums, and 1.8m tracks.
I started a fresh library, set all ratings to Null, set all plays to Null
Ran Play Radio

I'm 60 mins in at this point and three Albums have repeated themselves in that period (ie not artist, but Album repeating).In a popluation like this, surely that's not random.

Now I could understand if tracks from certain Artists that I have a concentration of played more often...for example I have a couple of artists with 50+ Albums (I like Maddonna and Frank Sinatra ;) ). But the repeating Albums referred to above are seemingly random (no more than 3 Album s per artist, not played in over 2 years).

....oh in the few mintues it took me to write this, we can add more my cycle of repeats from the same Albums. aaaaaggggghhhhh!!!

Go figure.....

--- End quote ---

Radio is supposed to be smarter than just random.

It plays less of things you skip and more of things you don't skip. It also looks at ratings, play frequency, and other variables.

I wonder if the "more of things you don't skip" system is what people looking for a random mix don't like?

damian_pentney:
Matt,

I hear you...I really do...and I get what you mean....but, with a fresh library and reset stats, does this mean, if I listen to a track from first Album that Play Radio cues, that this predisposes that 'Album ' to be selected more....it doesn't figure ...I'm not hearing the same track over and over again and I've skipped some tracks on these Albums yet I'm five hours through now and still hearing tracks from the same Albums over and over again (note: different tracks are played from the same Album, it's not the same track over and over again). Am I going to keppt hearing the same Album until it realizes I only like one track ?

I really like the concept, I'm just not sure it's executing. I know it's not random...I get that. But out of 100.000 Albums, how can I be hearing the same 4 Albums repreated over 6 times in the first 3 hours of play ? I really think somethings not working here. To be clear....the albums repeating themselves are Albums I've not played in years...I'd get it if they appeared once or twice (ie throwing in the 'unheard' track) but their persitence is beyond random tracks that haven't been played in along while.

I like the concept so much that I'm willing to troubleshoot this as long as it takes. Is there any data I can share that would help?

DP

Vali Mihai:
i agree. I expect to listen various artists and various genres. and that smart editor is not working. i have almost 50.000 songs in my library.

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