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iPhone 3G support?
glynor:
--- Quote from: punkapotente on September 10, 2008, 05:02:13 pm ---And that's the thing that I'm not sure about and I frankly don't understand how you can be so conviced.
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I'm convinced because they publish the SDK. They can (and sometimes do) break the iTunes API when they release major new versions (the library format and some SDK functions changed with the new v8 released yesterday). But they then update the SDK and release a new one.
Are they probably slow to release a new one? Yes. Is the SDK probably horribly incomplete and sometimes inaccurate? Likely. Do they encrypt the iTunes database and actively try to obfuscate external access to iTunes via COM? No, not at all. They intentionally make it scriptable. Most Apple applications are. Plenty of applications, including MC, read and access the iTunes database files. Plenty of applications use the API to externally control iTunes.
Apple wants applications to use iTunes. That gets iTunes installed on your computer, and up in front of the user, which is the ultimate goal. What they don't want (and actively work to make it as difficult as is possible) is for you to be able to use your iPod without having iTunes installed.
--- Quote from: zxsix on September 10, 2008, 03:28:13 pm ---I'm with glynor on this.
I don't use the itunes database for anything. So as far as I'm concerned, MC could check the playlists that I have selected to sync to the device, delete the itunes xml database, recreate it based on the sync playlists in MC.
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Exactly. I hate actually using iTunes, but right now it is extremely annoying to use MC with my iPhone.
punkapotente:
--- Quote ---Apple wants applications to use iTunes. That gets iTunes installed on your computer, and up in front of the user, which is the ultimate goal.
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They want people to use iTunes because their ultimate goal is to sell stuff through the store. iTunes is just a fancy front-end for the store. They don't benefit from people having iTunes installed, they want people to use iTunes as their primary library management tool because that makes it incredibly tempting to purchase things from the store (e.g. the new genius playlist thingy is just a way of displaying context sensitive ads).
An application that just interfaces iTunes for syncing is just as bad for them as an application that doesn't require iTunes at all. So I believe they will take counter-measures.
Anyway, let's quit speculating. I think you do have some good points, but I believe so do I. We both agree that the current situation sucks, so let's hope for the best ... maybe JR will surprise us ...
glynor:
--- Quote from: punkapotente on September 11, 2008, 12:46:35 am ---An application that just interfaces iTunes for syncing is just as bad for them as an application that doesn't require iTunes at all. So I believe they will take counter-measures.
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I agree, they wouldn't like this particular use. However, I don't know what they'd do about it to "take counter measures" without breaking the API and SDK, which they do want to support. Plus, JRiver is a fairly small fish and a Windows-only one. I suspect they might not be high enough profile for Apple to care either way.
--- Quote from: punkapotente on September 11, 2008, 12:46:35 am ---Anyway, let's quit speculating. I think you do have some good points, but I believe so do I. We both agree that the current situation sucks, so let's hope for the best ... maybe JR will surprise us ...
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Totally agree! I doubt that I'll be surprised much. They'll come up with some kind of solution. It's not like they can just ignore the iPod in their target market.
zxsix:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=204248&package_id=243989
Here's a potential replacement for ITLU.
Much more powerful, but a bit complex.
I'll need to play with it a bit more later this week.
One this it does do that ITLU doesn't, is to write tags (such as rating) to the file tags that itunes won't.
glynor:
If you get if figured out, post back your experiences.
One thing I'd be interested in would be something that could assign the Video Kind tag in iTunes in an automated fashion. All videos that import show up as "Movies" in iTunes, and I'd much prefer them to be "TV Show" or "Podcast" (so that I can set them to automatically sync without having to go in and manually check each stupid little box).
The only videos I put in my iTunes library I want to sync to my phone, so the current "Movies" kind tag doesn't really work for me.
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