so I finally broke down and got an apple device, that being an iphone 3g. i knew i'd hate itunes after playing with it and friends houses. installation and about 2 hours of playing with it after importing my library confirmed it. I need to dump music onto it for a trip and started trying to using itunes browser. . . yeah that was not going to work. . . so then I found this thread which left me a little disappointed. it did not raise my hopes for hoping that it would work in MC. MC does not even recognize it. ANYHOW. . . I found my happy place. . i just created a playlist in iTunes called "iPhone", set iTunes to sync that playlist with my iPhone. then I found you can just drag and drop from MC into playlists in iTune. viola. use MC for all media management now except podcasts. use iTunes for only those very specific things like syncing photos and podcasts.