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I need to convert JTV (J River TV Format) to MPG or other standard format
jmone:
Summary of Issue: JR introduced a proprietary container format called JTV for storing of the Video and Audio streams captured from TV Tuner Cards about 18months ago with MC14. While there are some technical benefits the issue is as JTV is a non-industry standard file type the only "compatible" software appears to be MC itself limiting their use to within MC only.
Requirement: All I want to do is use MC to record my TV recordings to a single file so I can edit, store, burn to disc etc, so I need either:
1) An internal MC option to either record to an Industry Standard container (like MPG) instead of JTV,
2) an internal MC option to remux the compliant Video and Audio Streams from the JTV container to an Industry Standard container (like MPG), or
3) a 3rd party tool that will do the above.
Tried so far: Any suggestions would be great as so far I've tried:
1) Hoping, pleading, demanding, and begging for a "record to MPG/TS" or the "remux option" in MC - :'(
2) Finding a direct show editor that supports the JTV container - :'(
3) Finding a remuxer that will convert JTV to anything standard. :'( (Note: latest testing with the Haali DS Mux shows it will mux of the ALL the JTV files as individual segments in the single MKV container. The resultant MKV file will play but you can not seek or you lose Video output though sound is fine. Then tried demuxing this files to the MPEG and AC3 streams but the video is garbage, wrong dimensions, framerates and is scrambled. Then tried many of the transcoding progs on this MKV file to another format but either they fail or produce garbage at the other end)
4) ...even tried MC's own video transcoder in the Handheld segment on the JTV file and it just errors out :'(
5) ...also I only get a "corrupted data" on the PS3 if I try to stream a TV Recoding over DLNA :'(
Thanks
Nathan
rpalmer68:
I'm with Nathan on this one.
I like to edit out the adds in recordings of things I want to keep, this is impossible with the MC recording format, I can't edit the recording or burn it to disc for use outside MC.
I haven't even tried to stream the recordings to a DLNA or non-MC decice, but can imagine in the future I will be needing to.
I'm sure there are excellet and compelling technical reasos for doing what you are doing for timeshifting use, but I do question the use of this format for recordings.
Richard
Daydream:
This is one of the big reasons I chose to jump ship (spend twice as much on something that works like I want it; money was never the issue). Paradigm in action: I own the software I buy, it doesn't own me. All this it's of no big technical help (except saying that like jmone, I tried everything and nothing worked), but it just outlines the far extremes issues like these have pushed me to.
As far as I'm concerned this is a battle lost. By everybody. If tomorrow a new format is implemented, it's too late, I moved on. If time has any value for anybody listening up there, I have no more time to wait on you.
raym:
Of the small set of video conversion tools I have at my disposal, none of them seem to load these files. I think a conversion tool built into MC would be the most appropriate solution. Like others, I need to be able to edit programs, save them as a single file and occassionally, burn them to DVD.
Thanks.
jmone:
--- Quote from: Daydream on April 19, 2010, 06:25:33 pm ---This is one of the big reasons I chose to jump ship (spend twice as much on something that works like I want it; money was never the issue). Paradigm in action: I own the software I buy, it doesn't own me. All this it's of no big technical help (except saying that like jmone, I tried everything and nothing worked), but it just outlines the far extremes issues like these have pushed me to.
--- End quote ---
It's funny - it was MC12's DTV development and the terrific interaction with Yaobing that saw me join the MC fold...but it was the other features that kept me. With the introduction of the JTV format, I like you and several (many??, most??) other TV users have drifted to other non MC solutions for TV....
--- Quote --- As far as I'm concerned this is a battle lost. By everybody. If tomorrow a new format is implemented, it's too late, I moved on. If time has any value for anybody listening up there, I have no more time to wait on you.
--- End quote ---
I hope you are wrong! I'll keep annoying Jim and the JR crew on this one as it just does to fit with JRiver's mission for MC is "any media, any time, any place":
1) Technical (This should appeal to Matt et al) as it just makes good solid logical sense to support or interchange with std formats (and I hate poor thinking on stuff like this). Imagine the "success" of MC if we all had to rip our Music into some MC only proprite format and could not convert it back, or use it on anyother device, stream it, burn it thereby leaving it "stuck"in MC forever...and how is TV records any different?
2) Marketing (This should appeal to Jim) I'd want to keep as many of my users in my own eco system as possible and away from competing products. One potential argument from JR is that there is not enough users who care and while I don't proclaim to know the TV usage patterns across all MC users but certainly, like yourself there seems to be a preference for those doing allot of TV recording to use something else....
The great thing is that JR reads and responds...sometime not what I want but anyway, we have some influence on the product unlike most SW Vendors!
Thanks
Nathan
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