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Playlists (Backup discussion)
tunetyme:
This runs along the DJ thread but it is separate. I am still using MC 12 because I do not see any benefit to upgrade (cost is not the issue). I bought MC because of the database and the flexibility to add your own fields. I have also been a supporter of a relational database and a linux version as well.
My interests run more towards the audiophile end of the spectrum. I spend a lot of time building playlists based on theme, key, BPM and just plain listening to the transitions until I get the right pieces of music in the right order to create themood desired. With the current MC set up it takes days to build a 3 or 4 hour playlist. I have made some suggestions on additional features in other threads to better facilitate this process.
My fundamental concern today is that when I make a correction or move files they end up deleted from my playlists. For example, I found that freedb misspells Beethoven, When I corrected it and it’s file folder then re-imported the files including deleting the old files from the database I discovered that they were also deleted from my playlists. My understanding was that these lists are written to separate files. When I open my playlists it should show me all the deleted files. It doesn’t. This is an essential feature.
Tunetyme
Peter_T:
Why don't you make the changes in MC? Then everything points to the right place.
To re-name a file &/or folder right-click and Choose Library Tools -> Rename, Move and Copy Files.
If you start managing your media outside your media manager, things don't always go as you planned. Better to figure out how MC does it internally than to lose all you hard work building playlists.
glynor:
Exactly. Managing the files the way you're doing it is what is causing you this issue. MC's Rename, Move, and Copy File tool (might be called "Rename Files from Properties" in MC12) can do this task easily while keeping the files intact in the MC database. The whole point of maintaining a database in MC is that it can abstract the files on disk, and manage them for you. If a file-tag is incorrect, then you fix the tag in the file, and then (if you care) update the filename and path using the appropriate tool in MC.
Removing a file from MC's database is removing the file. If you delete the files out of MC's database, I would certainly expect them to be removed from all playlists as well. It would be a "bug" to me if it acted any other way.
tunetyme:
I respectfully disagree. In other software, if I create a playlist it is stored as a separate file. (MC can import them)
Unfortunately, your recommendations assume everything is normal, what about disk crashes, or files that are damaged and a host of other problems that occur to all of us. Your big investment is the time to build your playlists. There isn't any apparent way to print your list from MC either.
One of the things I really like about MC is the fact that most things are also stored in the tags (lyrics, BPM, etc.). So if something happens to MC I still have the information in the tags. My investment of time to download lyrics is protected.
Bluntly, I have my wish list for MC too, but this is absolutely essential that the playlists be stored as a separate file. When you open your playlist it should show which files that are missing just like it does in the complete listing. I've lost a lot of work because I assumed that MC stored playlists like other software.
I didn't buy MC so I could connect to everything in the world. If I did, I would have bought a Panasonic, then I would get a toaster, boom box, can opener, that also slices and dices for you too. I simply want a great system that manages my music and protects my investment of time. If MC doesn't want to or can't provide it, fine, just say so.
Frobozz:
--- Quote from: tunetyme on April 22, 2009, 04:52:05 pm --- There isn't any apparent way to print your list from MC either.
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It is possible to save a playlist as a text file or HTML file.
Right-click on the playlist
Select "Export Playlist..."
You can export as an HTML file, text file, ASX, or M3U.
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