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chrisjj:
> You can't put two "different" files with identical tags on a device.

Since I can put them in the library, I see no sense in being prevented in putting them on a device.

> Match keys for a handheld are based on tag information since this is immutable across systems and devices.

Fine - except that it causes false matches.

You said the current match key is "the default". How do I change it?

Matt:

--- Quote from: chrisjj on March 17, 2010, 06:01:17 pm ---> You can't put two "different" files with identical tags on a device.

Since I can put them in the library, I see no sense in being prevented in putting them on a device.
--- End quote ---

You can copy anything you want to a device using My Computer or Rename, Move & Copy files inside Media Center.

But if you use the handheld engine, you are using a sync engine with intelligence.  It has to be able to know when a device is synced.  It has to work across multiple machines.  It does not look at filenames, because they are not a technically viable solution for this purpose.

So again, if it messages you that there are duplicates, you need to change the files to not be duplicates.  It could be as simple as adding a 1 or 2 to the end of the name.

chrisjj:
> if you use the handheld engine, you are using a sync engine with intelligence.

But not the intelligence to consider the audio. Even Windows Media Player duplicate detection does that. I suggest JRiver makes MC do that too. Or at least documents in Help its failure to do so.

> It does not look at filenames, because they are not a technically viable solution for this purpose.

The default does not look at filenames. The workaround will do... if you will please tell me how to change from the default.

> you need to change the files to not be duplicates.  It could be as simple as adding a 1 or 2 to the end of the name.

Thanks, but the track titles are currently accurate and I need them to remain so.

Alex B:
Out of curiosity, I checked a library of about 70000 audio tracks against the expression Matt posted. I created a calculated library field and a smartlist that lists only the duplicates in that field.

I found a bunch of real duplicates that need to be fixed (this didn't surprise me), but only one occurrence in which all tags are correctly filled (names exactly as on the CD cover, track numbers correct, etc) and still a duplicate is listed. These two tracks are from the special three disc edition of the "Dimitri From Paris - In The House" album.The tracks "disc 1: track 5" and "disc 3: track 5" have identical artist and name values. Including the disc number in the expression would fix this problem.

Probably I will never try to sync both tracks, but I may add some additional info to the name tags because it would be good to know what is different in these two tracks.

chrisjj:

--- Quote from: Alex B on March 19, 2010, 05:40:15 am ---and a smartlist that lists only the duplicates in that field.
--- End quote ---
That's neat. Can you tell me the definition of that smartlist? I cannot work out from the docs how to get a smartlist to show only duplicates in an expression.

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