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Fix Blu-Ray File Import Structure
JimH:
justinchase,
There are legitimate rights concerns that prevent us from doing everything for you.
JustinChase:
--- Quote from: JimH on February 03, 2011, 02:40:57 pm ---justinchase,
There are legitimate rights concerns that prevent us from doing everything for you.
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Oh, I'm sure of that, and do understand. I'm just hopeful that something closer to what I have described is possible; a happy middle-ground if you like.
Even a good help file with thorough instructions and maybe some suggestions for what works, and how 'exactly' to set it up inside MC would be a big step forward.
I realize you likely can't just include all the filters and such bundled with MC out of the box, but I have to believe it can be improved.
Maybe MC can just recognize what is already installed, and offer a pre-configured "adjustment" to some common filters, or something similar. "I see you have FFDshow installed, would you like to apply our suggested settings for you?"
A while back, I suggested a "codec pack" as an alternative/option to help with this. Someone really railed against me for even suggesting such a stupid idea, but I still think it's a good option. A pre-configured group of codecs designed/tweaked to integrate into MC, with no user tweaking *required* to get lossless/high quality playback of most common files.
Perhaps it can't/shouldn't be offered by J River, but perhaps Billy Bob's Codec Shack (unrelated to J River) could release something, for example. ;)
Anyway, thanks for any/all development that can get done in this area!!
mojave:
--- Quote ---MC must know what filters are available on a system, or it couldn't use them to playback, so it seems that MC could/should just look for the filter that works "best" and use it, without involving me, and if it can't find that filter, go to the second "best" choice, and so on. if/when it gives up searching, ask the user for guidance in finding what they wish to use, or MORE LIKELY, suggest they install whatever works "best", and help them do it where possible.
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--- Quote ---Maybe MC can just recognize what is already installed, and offer a pre-configured "adjustment" to some common filters, or something similar. "I see you have FFDshow installed, would you like to apply our suggested settings for you?"
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MC already looks for the filter that works best and uses it. If you have ffdshow or other codecs installed, you can leave everything set to auto and MC will playback your files. You don't have to manually select any codecs. There are times when it will use a splitter or filter that doesn't work, but this usually happens when someone loads tons of various filters or demos on their system.
jmone:
There are three bits missing (one critical) to supporting (simple) playback of Blu-ray disks stuctures in MC:
1a) Blu-ray Recognition : MC will need to be tweaked to recognise a Blu-ray ROM and Blu-ray structure so it would only try to import or play the whole structure as one (eg like it does with DVD), and then it would still need:
1b) Blu-ray Navigation : There is no available Blu-ray Navigiation "filter" that MC can use... so JR will need to code or buy a solution if MC is to be able to play Blu-rays. There are two ways, full on Java support (like TMT PDVD etc which given the cost and complexity I don't think is likely) OR what MPC-HC has already done and just build a MPLS parser so you can bypass the menu and just play the content. I asked over at the Slysoft Forum if their (yet to be released) Blu player will have a direct show Navigation Blu Navigation Filter but it seems it will be coded directly.
2) DTS-HD : There is no freeware DTS-HD audio decoder so when playing disks with this audio track you only get the DTS "lossy core".
JustinChase:
--- Quote from: mojave on February 03, 2011, 04:50:48 pm ---MC already looks for the filter that works best and uses it. If you have ffdshow or other codecs installed, you can leave everything set to auto and MC will playback your files. You don't have to manually select any codecs.
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Unfortunately, this has not been my experience :(
I'm getting close to needing/wanting to wipe and reinstall windows on the HTPC, so I'll see where I stand "out of the box" once I find the time to do this.
I installed Windows 7 when it was released, and have tried a few "solutions" (experiments??) to stuff in that time, so a wipe and "do over" might take care of this now.
lossless audio and subtitles support in MKV files has improved substantially since I installed W7, and trying to stay on top of that progress (plus the learning curve) caused a lot of the trial and error, which likely led to some of the issues I've experienced.
Thanks
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