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xxsteelroosterxx

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Tuner Doesn't Show Picture
« on: February 15, 2011, 04:41:32 pm »

Hey all. I've scanned channels using MC15, and whenever I click to watch any of the channels, it pops up a black screen. I know the tuner works, I have verified it using Windows Media Center and WinTV7, and am just clueless where to start.

MC 15.0.174
Windows Vista
Hauppage WinTV-HVR-2250

Thanks in advance,
Adam
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Re: Tuner Doesn't Show Picture
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2011, 08:17:09 am »

While you are playing a channel, right-click in the video window and choose DirectShow Filters > Copy graph info to clipboard.  Paste the info here.
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Re: Tuner Doesn't Show Picture
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2011, 10:51:20 am »

Filter Graph Info (TV graph):

    Filter 'JRiver Audio Renderer'
        CLSID: {A4002F8E-510F-442C-8AD3-F9C7B23FB394}
        Host:
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin 'Out' of filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
        CLSID: {FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}
        Host: c:\windows\system32\evr.dll
        Input Pin 'EVR Input0'
            Connected to pin 'Video Out' of filter 'MainConcept MPEG-2 Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Input Pin 'EVR Input1'

    Filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
        CLSID: {0F40E1E5-4F79-4988-B1A9-CC98794E6B55}
        Host: c:\program files\ffdshow\ffdshow.ax
        Output Pin 'Out'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'JRiver Audio Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Input Pin 'In'
            Connected to pin 'Audio Out' of filter 'MPEG-2 Demultiplexer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_AUDIO, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

    Filter 'MainConcept MPEG-2 Video Decoder'
        CLSID: {BC4EB321-771F-4E9F-AF67-37C631ECA106}
        Host: c:\program files\research in motion\blackberry desktop\codecs\mc_dec_mp2v_ds.ax
        Input Pin 'MPEG In'
            Connected to pin 'Video Out' of filter 'MPEG-2 Demultiplexer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
        Output Pin 'Video Out'
            Connected to pin 'EVR Input0' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_NV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
        Output Pin '~CC Out'
        Input Pin 'SubPicture In'

    Filter 'MPEG-2 Demultiplexer'
        CLSID: {AFB6C280-2C41-11D3-8A60-0000F81E0E4A}
        Host: c:\windows\system32\mpg2splt.ax
        Input Pin 'MPEG-2 Stream'
            Connected to pin 'MPEG2 PS' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 MPEG2 PS Encoder/Mux'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Stream  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_PROGRAM, Format type Unknown GUID Name: {E06D8022-DB46-11CF-B4D1-00805F6CBBEA}
        Output Pin 'Audio Out'
            Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_AUDIO, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
        Output Pin 'Video Out'
            Connected to pin 'MPEG In' of filter 'MainConcept MPEG-2 Video Decoder'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_VIDEO, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO

    Filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 MPEG2 PS Encoder/Mux'
        CLSID: {17CCA71B-ECD7-11D0-B908-00A0C9223196}
        Host: ksproxy.ax
        Output Pin 'MPEG2 PS'
            Connected to pin 'MPEG-2 Stream' of filter 'MPEG-2 Demultiplexer'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Stream  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_MPEG2_PROGRAM, Format type Unknown GUID Name: {E06D8022-DB46-11CF-B4D1-00805F6CBBEA}
        Input Pin 'I2S Audio'
            Connected to pin 'I2S Audio' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AnalogAudio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None
        Input Pin 'Analog ITU Video'
            Connected to pin 'Analog ITU Video' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None

    Filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture'
        CLSID: {17CCA71B-ECD7-11D0-B908-00A0C9223196}
        Host: ksproxy.ax
        Output Pin '~Capture'
        Output Pin '~Audio'
        Output Pin 'VBI'
        Output Pin 'I2S Audio'
            Connected to pin 'I2S Audio' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 MPEG2 PS Encoder/Mux'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AnalogAudio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin 'Analog ITU Video'
            Connected to pin 'Analog ITU Video' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 MPEG2 PS Encoder/Mux'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_Video  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None
        Input Pin 'Analog Video In'
            Connected to pin '0: Video Decoder Out' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Xbar'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AnalogVideo  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_AnalogVideo
        Input Pin 'Analog Audio'
            Connected to pin '1: Audio Decoder Out' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Xbar'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AnalogAudio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None

    Filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Xbar'
        CLSID: {71F96460-78F3-11D0-A18C-00A0C9118956}
        Host: c:\windows\system32\ksxbar.ax
        Input Pin '0: Video Tuner In'
            Connected to pin 'Analog Video' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog TV Tuner'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AnalogVideo  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_AnalogVideo
        Input Pin '1: Audio Tuner In'
            Connected to pin 'TVAudio Out' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog TV Audio'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AnalogAudio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None
        Input Pin '2: Video Composite In'
        Input Pin '3: Video SVideo In'
        Input Pin '4: Video AUX In'
        Input Pin '5: Audio Line In'
        Input Pin '6: Video Composite In'
        Input Pin '7: Video SVideo In'
        Input Pin '8: Video AUX In'
        Input Pin '9: Audio Line In'
        Output Pin '0: Video Decoder Out'
            Connected to pin 'Analog Video In' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AnalogVideo  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_AnalogVideo
        Output Pin '1: Audio Decoder Out'
            Connected to pin 'Analog Audio' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Capture'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AnalogAudio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None

    Filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog TV Audio'
        CLSID: {71F96462-78F3-11D0-A18C-00A0C9118956}
        Host: c:\windows\system32\ksxbar.ax
        Input Pin 'TVAudio In'
            Connected to pin 'Analog Audio' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog TV Tuner'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AnalogAudio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None
        Output Pin 'TVAudio Out'
            Connected to pin '1: Audio Tuner In' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Xbar'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AnalogAudio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None

    Filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog TV Tuner'
        CLSID: {266EEE40-6C63-11CF-8A03-00AA006ECB65}
        Host: c:\windows\system32\kstvtune.ax
        Output Pin 'Analog Video'
            Connected to pin '0: Video Tuner In' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog Xbar'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AnalogVideo  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_AnalogVideo
        Output Pin 'Analog Audio'
            Connected to pin 'TVAudio In' of filter 'Hauppauge WinTV-7164 Analog TV Audio'
            Major type MEDIATYPE_AnalogAudio  Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_None, Format type FORMAT_None
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Re: Tuner Doesn't Show Picture
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2011, 04:35:22 pm »

The graph is normal.  The only thing that may raise a flag is that "MainConcept Video decoder" was loaded as your video decoder.  MainConcept decoder has given us quite some troubles.  For Hauppauge devices we try to load Hauppauge video decoder (InterVideo video decoder) if it is available.  I am guessing you did not install Hauppauge software, so their decoder is not available.  

If you can, please try installing the software that comes with the device so Hauppauge decoder can be used.  Alternatively, since you have installed FFDShow, you can try enabling MPEG-2 decoding in FFDShow.  Hopefully FFDShow will have higher DirectShow merit and it will be loaded instead of MainConcept.
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Re: Tuner Doesn't Show Picture
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2011, 07:51:30 pm »

Thanks for the response. I've changed the decoder (at least I think I have) and now video does play (which is the only reason I think I've done it successfully honestly). However, I'm not getting any sound now. I wasn't before the change either, for what it's worth.
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Re: Tuner Doesn't Show Picture
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2011, 01:31:19 pm »

For diagnosing purpose, go to Tools > Options > Video.  Under "Audio for Video, DVD, & Television", change "Playback Device" setting from "Same as device for audio playback" to "Default Windows playback device".  Does that give you sound?
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Re: Tuner Doesn't Show Picture
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 03:58:55 pm »

Also, if you put it in time-shifting mode (right-click, TV options > Start time-shifting mode), do you get sound?
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Re: Tuner Doesn't Show Picture
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2011, 02:24:16 pm »

Sorry for the long delay in responding. Your suggestion did work! And then my computer gave me the big middle finger (completely unrelated to this program of course). Finally back up and running, thanks for the help again!
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Re: Tuner Doesn't Show Picture
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2011, 05:18:18 pm »

Turn on logging, and get a log file of starting a channel, and then starting time-shifting, then email it to me.  I may then be able to figure out how to get sound without entering time-shifting mode.

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