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emovac

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USE OF MC to UPSAMPLE
« on: March 12, 2012, 10:50:11 pm »

Can MC 17 be used to upsample tracks to a USB stick, or external drive? (from standard CD 16bit/44.1 to 24/96). I do not intend on using my computer loaded with MC 17 as my source player in my audio system, but have ordered a Bryston BDP-1 Digital transport which accepts USB flash drives, and external hard drives - I have found the Audio Output section within MC, but am unsure if the "upsampled" tracks must be played back through the MC program, or can they be altered by the program and upsampled to an outside source.  If not, is there a plug that will accomplish this?  Thank you.
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Re: USE OF MC to UPSAMPLE
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2012, 12:36:44 am »

I assume you are talking about encoding them at a higher sample rate if so then yes they will play on any device that supports the file type and sample rate.
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Re: USE OF MC to UPSAMPLE
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2012, 02:08:49 am »

Thanks for the response.  I tried a few test music files through my Oppo BDP-95 USB and my DAC read everything as being 44.1 kHz files.  Hopefully, the DAC will read files from the Bryston at the higher sampling rate.  Not sure it will sound any better that way, but wanted to give it a try.  Thank you
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Re: USE OF MC to UPSAMPLE
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2012, 02:49:13 am »

Are you doing this on the fly with the DSP Studio or re-encoding them with Media Editor.
I don't really see it making a difference though as up-sampling is more for compatibility than quality IMHO.
You can't encode a lesser quality file and make it sound better by increasing the bit rate/depth or sampling rate.
An example if you take an .mp3 and encode it to .wav it is still just going to be mp3 quality and this is the same basic principle.
The only files that I have changed in a similar manor are some dsd files that are 1bit 2,822,400Hz files natively and I
convert them to 16bit 176,400Hz. I came to this number because 2,822,400/16 = 176,400.
Just some food for thought.
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Re: USE OF MC to UPSAMPLE
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2012, 09:03:17 am »

DSP Study converts on the fly for direct playback. It does not change the file.

I do not use Media Editor much, but I do not believe it will convert to 24/96. I think it is limited to 16 bit conversion. And I do not think it has a batch mode. I may be wrong. If you want to convert a lot of files to 24/96, something like dBpoweramp batch converter might be a good way to go. It can convert large numbers of files in the background in multiple formats.

Going from 16 to 24 bits will just give you 8 extra zeros, which is only important if the Bryston handles 24 bit data differently than 16 bit data.
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Re: USE OF MC to UPSAMPLE
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2012, 06:01:43 pm »

Hello Scolex and DTC - thank you for the responses.

Scolex posted - I don't really see it making a difference though as up-sampling is more for compatibility than quality IMHO.
You can't encode a lesser quality file and make it sound better by increasing the bit rate/depth or sampling rate.


This is probably what I misunderstood.  I was under the belief the file quality could be smoothed by upsampling it.  If not, I can simply transfer the files to FLAC 4 or 5, and be done with it.
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Re: USE OF MC to UPSAMPLE
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2012, 06:49:18 pm »

This is probably what I misunderstood.  I was under the belief the file quality could be smoothed by upsampling it.  If not, I can simply transfer the files to FLAC 4 or 5, and be done with it.

Just so you know FLAC *quality* in the encoder settings is a misnomer in the fact that the number is relative to compression level and not quality. They all have the same quality for given file, it is just a matter of how much time is spent to compress them allowing for a smaller size. Think of FLAC files as audio zip files.
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Re: USE OF MC to UPSAMPLE
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2012, 09:48:27 pm »

Thanks.  I had to read a few posts to figure the FLAC "QUALITY" one out.  At the moment, I'm ripping a few discs to FLAC 4, which seemed like a happy medium.   
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