Topic: Client server help please (Read 3499 times)

maid · « **on:** February 28, 2012, 05:50:05 pm »

I have set up client and server on my two computers.

When I make changes on the client then sync the library they are not being saved in the library.

If I close the client and re open they are unassigned again.

I also have two zones on my server but only one on the client.

maid · « **Reply #1 on:** February 28, 2012, 08:14:52 pm »

MrHaugen · « **Reply #2 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:27:34 am »

You have activated the authentication under the Media Network settings? You'll need to have an authenticated client to make changes. If no authentication was required, everyone could connect to your server and mess up your library. Also make sure you've selected "Automatically sync changes made on client back to server". I think this option have to be set on the client.

maid · « **Reply #3 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:35:19 am »

Yes and yes.

I just cant get it to work

MrHaugen · « **Reply #4 on:** February 29, 2012, 03:06:37 am »

Changes made on library fields will be synced back to the server, from the client. Changes on views and other things in MC will probably only sync from SERVER to client. That might be your problem. I struggled a bit with this my self back in the day. But as soon as I understood that most things needed to be configured on the server, everything worked fine.

vicini · « **Reply #5 on:** February 29, 2012, 05:15:35 am »

I too have same issue and i guess duplicated a post.

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=70472.0

glynor · « **Reply #6 on:** February 29, 2012, 09:45:31 am »

Quote from: MrHaugen on February 29, 2012, 03:06:37 am

Changes made on library fields will be synced back to the server, from the client. Changes on views and other things in MC will probably only sync from SERVER to client. That might be your problem. I struggled a bit with this my self back in the day. But as soon as I understood that most things needed to be configured on the server, everything worked fine.

This is probably it.

Maid, can you explain more WHAT you are trying to change from the Client?

You CANNOT change any view, you CANNOT change Theater View setup, delete playlists, or basically any other "Library Structure Management" types of tasks. If you do these tasks from a client machine, it'll "work" until you close and restart that client (or resync with the server manually), after which your changes will revert. To change "views" (and similar tasks) you have to do these things directly on the server (or alternately close the server, open the library directly on the client machine, make your changes, close the client, and then reopen the server). You CAN tag files though, and this works well on my system at home.

Make sure to check the Client Options under Options -> Media Network -> Client Options on the individual client machine copies of MC. Those "client options" are, somewhat obviously, client-specific not server-specific.

maid · « **Reply #7 on:** February 29, 2012, 08:47:26 pm »

I was changing tags and downloading tv info.

justsomeguy · « **Reply #8 on:** February 29, 2012, 09:01:38 pm »

Quote from: glynor on February 29, 2012, 09:45:31 am

You CANNOT change any view, you CANNOT change Theater View setup, delete playlists, or basically any other "Library Structure Management" types of tasks. If you do these tasks from a client machine, it'll "work" until you close and restart that client (or resync with the server manually), after which your changes will revert.

I find it odd I can create and rename playlists and add or remove files from a playlist but I can't delete a playlist.

vicini · « **Reply #9 on:** February 29, 2012, 09:06:17 pm »

Media Server is broken. I made a post explaining the trouble. no response yet.
i did my part... i reported it.

glynor · « **Reply #10 on:** February 29, 2012, 10:00:30 pm »

Quote from: vicini on February 29, 2012, 09:06:17 pm

Media Server is broken. I made a post explaining the trouble. no response yet.
i did my part... i reported it.

If you posted something I never saw it.

~~You should bump the thread, and/or give it a better title/description. It might be that no one understood, or no one who could help looked at it because the Subject was vague.~~

I found it since you linked to it above. (Duh.)

Perhaps something is broken with external access or something (this doesn't make a lot of sense because it is the same protocol on the same port, unless some Firewall is filtering HTTP requests on your port or something). Maid, are you connecting from the client using <machine address>:<port> or using an Access Key?

maid · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2012, 06:45:38 pm »

I am supposed to be connecting with an access key, if I have set it up correctly. I have this m01p://HTPC

As I could not get it to work I have gone back to using the library over the network, which means no one else can make changes.

As we are using the remote the media server is still on the HTPC machine.

When I start MC in my office it comes up that the database is in use??

glynor · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:19:54 pm »

We can fix your server machine. What machine do you want to act as the server?

On that machine, do this:

Click the Start Button and type:
cmd

Hit Enter.

In the command prompt box, type:

ipconfig

Copy and paste the results here.

Also, briefly describe your network. If you have a Router/Firewall box (certainly), tell me what make/model it is. Also, how does it connect to the Internet? Is it also acting directly as your DSL/Cable modem, or is it connected to a separate modem box (which is then plugged into the phone line/cable/whatever)?

MrC · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:52:59 pm »

For ease in future typing, and the lazy (me):

cmd /k ipconfig

JustinChase · « **Reply #14 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:03:12 pm »

Quote from: maid on March 01, 2012, 06:45:38 pm

When I start MC in my office it comes up that the database is in use??

this sounds to me like 2 machines are opening the same library, and the office machine is the 2nd instance, which is why you see that warning.

If this is correct, you're not connecting as a client, which is why nothing is being saved when you close. You would need to go to File > Library > Client of xxxxxx and this will connect you as a client of the server, and will allow you to save the types of changes discussed above.

glynor · « **Reply #15 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:29:02 pm »

Quote from: MrC on March 01, 2012, 07:52:59 pm

For ease in future typing, and the lazy (me):

cmd /k ipconfig

Good point. Thanks.

maid · « **Reply #16 on:** March 01, 2012, 10:57:10 pm »

I did the ipconfig on the machine but it does not put anything on the screen.

File > Library > Client of xxxxxx is not there so its obvious I am still accessing the local library.

I think I have all the right boxes ticked and the server is on.

glynor · « **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2012, 11:14:23 pm »

You have to add the Server library to the Client. Just for a sanity check, did you do this?

Click on the Playing from item under Playing Now in the tree, and add a new Library (if the one you want isn't already there). Put your Server's Access Key in the top box, and click OK. It should load the server's library then (prompting you for the username/password first).

If it doesn't, it could be a network configuration issue on the Server-side or on the Router (a firewall blocking it would be a likely culprit).

As far as the ipconfig thing... Did you do exactly what I said?

Click the Start button, then type this in the search box at the bottom (you can just click the start button and start typing, or just copy/paste the following line into the Search box):

cmd /k ipconfig

Then hit enter. That should open something like this:

glynor · « **Reply #18 on:** March 01, 2012, 11:16:50 pm »

Also, this:

Quote from: glynor on March 01, 2012, 07:19:54 pm

Also, briefly describe your network. If you have a Router/Firewall box (certainly), tell me what make/model it is. Also, how does it connect to the Internet? Is it also acting directly as your DSL/Cable modem, or is it connected to a separate modem box (which is then plugged into the phone line/cable/whatever)?

maid · « **Reply #19 on:** March 01, 2012, 11:36:08 pm »

there is already a library there but I tried to add one and it will not connect.

How do I send the screen dump?

We are connected to the internet by a Bigpond Thompson gateway DSL

glynor · « **Reply #20 on:** March 01, 2012, 11:47:11 pm »

Quote from: maid on March 01, 2012, 11:36:08 pm

We are connected to the internet by a Bigpond Thompson gateway DSL

Okay, so you have one "box" that connects all of your computers to the Internet, not two, right? The one the DSL company gave you?

Quote from: maid on March 01, 2012, 11:36:08 pm

How do I send the screen dump?

You can copy the stuff in the command prompt window and paste it to the forum. Follow these instructions:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/copy-to-the-clipboard-from-the-windows-command-prompt/

maid · « **Reply #21 on:** March 02, 2012, 12:35:41 am »

Yes one box to connect everything.

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::e52d:edcf:b9dd:4034%10
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.138

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e76:1098:2664:f5ff:fffd
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::1098:2664:f5ff:fffd%11
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::

Tunnel adapter isatap.{5A130916-1D35-4E5B-A5AD-9FCE56EB512A}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

maid · « **Reply #22 on:** March 03, 2012, 05:21:02 pm »

Have I not provided the correct information???

maid · « **Reply #23 on:** March 03, 2012, 11:57:52 pm »

Finaly, Done it thanks for your help

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