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Archimedianite

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unsuccessful DTS-MA 7.1 with dtsdecoder.dll
« on: May 07, 2012, 02:55:44 pm »

I have been unable to get DTS-MA 7.1 playback with MC17.  I am only able to get the 5.1 core.  I have put dtsdecoder.dll in sysWOW64, the MC17 plugins directory and the lav directory. Nothing seems to work.

I have TMT 3 and 5. I have tried the files from both (versions 1.1.0.7 and 1.1.0.8). Is there a way I can tell if it is using the dtsdecoder.dll file?

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Re: unsuccessful DTS-MA 7.1 with dtsdecoder.dll
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2012, 03:01:27 pm »

Audio Path (hover the mouse over the DSP icon at the top right of the program while playing) will report the format being received.  You want it to say dts-ma.
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Re: unsuccessful DTS-MA 7.1 with dtsdecoder.dll
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 04:11:03 pm »

It says: input 48kHz 32bit 6ch from source format dts

output is the same. 


I know the source is 96kHz 24bit 8ch

It does not say dts-ma

btw, I found this under player/audio path in display mode. I don't where that icon you mentioned is.

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Re: unsuccessful DTS-MA 7.1 with dtsdecoder.dll
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 04:36:11 pm »

Are you playing a rip - or from a disk? How are you connected to the AVR (HDMI)?
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Re: unsuccessful DTS-MA 7.1 with dtsdecoder.dll
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 06:21:27 pm »

I have been unable to get DTS-MA 7.1 playback with MC17.  I am only able to get the 5.1 core.  I have put dtsdecoder.dll in sysWOW64, the MC17 plugins directory and the lav directory. Nothing seems to work.

I have TMT 3 and 5. I have tried the files from both (versions 1.1.0.7 and 1.1.0.8). Is there a way I can tell if it is using the dtsdecoder.dll file?

Thanks,

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Are you using Windows 64-bit? If not then put the dtsdecoder.dll file in the sysWOW32 folder. Also (don't know if that helps) try and erase the dtsdecoder.dll file from anywhere except the proper(i.e., the one corresponding either Windows 32- or 64-bit) sysWOW folder. That is, don't erase it from its original TMT folder :)

I had a similar problem(if it's indeed yours as well) where I had put the dtsdecoder.dll file in the sysWOW32 folder, but being that I used(and still uses) Windows 64-bit I was unable to retract the DTS-MA signal. I then put the dtsdecoder file in the sysWOW64 folder, and from then on it worked like a charm.

EDIT: the Audio Path is accessed in the upper right corner of your MC17 window, just below the far right side of the rectangular information window(that displays track time, artist, etc.). It is placed to the right of the two small squarish arrow "windows," and when placing your cursor above the small Audio Path sqaure here information will automatically pop up in a larger window - with input information at the top, and output info at the bottom.
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Re: unsuccessful DTS-MA 7.1 with dtsdecoder.dll
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2012, 06:25:07 pm »

Thanks for responding folks.

It is actually not hooked up to an AVR. It is coming through my ASUS Xonar D2X.  And I am using Windows x64. I should have reported those things.

I see some posts where people say "don't worry you're getting the 7.1," but when I play trueHD 7.1, MC reports it as such so I don't know what I am getting with the DTS-MA.

I suppose I could put my ear to the side channels (after I turn off the JRSS enhancer), and check if there is anything coming out, but all the indications are that I am only getting DTS.

I will also make sure I have not left the file in any other place.

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Re: unsuccessful DTS-MA 7.1 with dtsdecoder.dll
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2012, 06:47:52 pm »

After checking to see if I had left a copy of dtsdecoder.dll in another spot I found one in the plugins folder. I removed it. Nothing changes in the Audio path report, the stream selection reports:

 Lossless dts-hd ma 48000 hz 5.1 1536 kb/ps

I suppose that means I am getting the dts core from the Lossless 7.1 stream.

Thanks for all the help so far. I don't want to be a pain, I'm just trying to get the full dts-hd ma 7.1.

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Re: unsuccessful DTS-MA 7.1 with dtsdecoder.dll
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2012, 06:53:49 pm »

After checking to see if I had left a copy of dtsdecoder.dll in another spot I found one in the plugins folder. I removed it. Nothing changes in the Audio path report, the stream selection reports:

 Lossless dts-hd ma 48000 hz 5.1 1536 kb/ps

I suppose that means I am getting the dts core from the Lossless 7.1 stream.

Thanks for all the help so far. I don't want to be a pain, I'm just trying to get the full dts-hd ma 7.1.

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What is it that the Audio Path tells you(both with regard to input and output)? Have you tried and rebooted?
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Re: unsuccessful DTS-MA 7.1 with dtsdecoder.dll
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2012, 07:02:02 pm »

Just to be sure, are you using Red October Standard or HQ?  Have you tried a couple movies?

Here's what it should look like while watching:

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Re: unsuccessful DTS-MA 7.1 with dtsdecoder.dll
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2012, 07:05:00 pm »

Are you sure the audio stream is 7.1? What MediaInfo says? Try to use LAV-Audio under custom-mode, any difference?
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Re: unsuccessful DTS-MA 7.1 with dtsdecoder.dll
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2012, 08:41:06 pm »

Thanks so much for the replies.

I didn't know about mediainfo. Tried it out. Turns out lots of these files are only 6 channels, but still Lossless. Checked the blu-rays and the only say DTS-MA on most of the covers, and not how many channels. I don't have anydvd so I cannot check the blu-ray directly using MC. But the one file I have been messing with is definitely 8 channel 96k 24 bit (blu-ray recording of the Rachmaninov piano concertos 2 and 3). War Horse is too.

Matt, I do not get the report that you do. When I select the Audio Path I never see the dts-hd ma. After using mediainfo, I know these are dts-hd ma 8 channel. I just get the 48k 32-bit or 24-bit 6 channel dts.

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Re: unsuccessful DTS-MA 7.1 with dtsdecoder.dll
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2012, 08:58:54 pm »

I don't know if its just a typo or if it matters but the proper file is    dtsdecoderdll.dll   with two dll's.
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Re: unsuccessful DTS-MA 7.1 with dtsdecoder.dll
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2012, 09:09:36 pm »

..And just like THAT it works!!

Thanks Hollidayjr!

It was named that way originally, but I must have had the file in too many places. When I saw others refer to the file as dtsdecoder.dll, I renamed it.  After removing the files in the plugins folder and left one in the sysWOW64 folder, I see now that it would not work because of the misspelling.

Thanks to all for the help. I apologize for not asking about the correct spelling of the file.

Again thanks. I'm really liking this.
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