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NEW: Improved OSD
MrHaugen:
I think we should go for the Roller behavior we have in Theater View. Most of us already know how this work.
We have the primary roller and secondary roller. The primary roller can contain Group of controls like "Color Controls", or single options like Subtitles or "Audio Selections". The selected item would always be centered, and highlighted with either a lighter/bold and capitalized text (would work with most, if not all skins) or a Theater View graphical selection. Once a item is selected, the secondary roller is populated with the options or items available. The rollers can go in loop, and would fade out on the sides if there are more items than the box width can handle. The OSD box should be transparent like in build 33. I've just used solid black for simplicity.
You can use down button or enter to go to the next roller or item down the line. Once down or enter have been selected for the bottom item, you can control the value (like saturation bar) with the left and right arrows. In cases of option values are on the second roller (like subtitles) you simply activate those when they are selected. Up or back arrow brings you back up.
I think this would be a lot more intuitive than the current behavior. It will require more hight than the OSD can with just one line, but you will have a much better overview and control imo. This could even make for a very touch friendly OSD. Swipe the finger up for the OSD, and then flick the rollers to select options, touch, select and change the different options. The value slider should also be possible to change left and right with the fingers. As the Win8 pads arrive, such things will be increasingly important.
*Edit2*
I've changed the illustration and rewritten the text to simplify.
Hendrik:
--- Quote from: jmone on August 24, 2012, 04:06:09 am ---No - it brings up a Diag asking if you want to play a DVD from a Drive
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Maybe my Menu button is special. I bound my "Menu" button on my Harmony to the "DVD Menu" action in the remote control config, and it brings up the title selector.
Note that i play my Blu-rays from actual physical discs. And this was on MC17, fwiw.
I don't have it in front of me right now, but i'll confirm that thats whats happening later. :p
jmone:
FYI - I tested by pulling out a Genuine MS Remote and the DVD Button brings up the Menu when a DVD is playing but on a BD it brings up a MC Diag asking if you want to play a disc from the drive.
imugli:
--- Quote from: MrHaugen on August 24, 2012, 04:56:44 am ---This got me thinking of different ways of dealing with this. As we're used to rollers for the views, why not take advantage of this and make something similar?
In this example, the OSD items are centered as they are selected. The items go in loop if they go outside the OSD box. I just made a black background for simplicity, but it should be a box and it should be transparent instead of occupying the whole width and being solid black as in this illustration. In the illustration, I've made the selected text brighter. I think this is the best, as it works with most skins. But a Theater View selection effect graphic could also be possible.
Down or up button activates the OSD, the first item is selected. You select categories and options with right and left, and you immediately see the sub options. Or in the case it's no sub selections, but just option values like subtitles, the second roller will represent the actual languages instead. Pushing down button or enter activates the sub option or item on the second roller, another down button or enter selects the secondary roller item. Left and right changes the option value (Saturation in the illustration). Up goes and back goes up a level.
I think this would be a lot more intuitive than the current behavior. It will require more hight than the OSD can with just one line, but you will have a much better overview and control imo. This could even make for a very touch friendly OSD. Swipe the finger up for the OSD, and then flick the rollers to select options, touch, select and change the different options. The value slider should also be possible to change left and right with the fingers. As the Win8 pads arrive, such things will be increasingly important.
Illustration added as attachment
*Edit* The selection should disappear from the "Color Controls" once you go to the second roller. I'm to lazy to fix it :)
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I could live with this...
jmone:
There seem to be two different requirements going:
1) MC's OSD (via Up/Down Arrow during Playback) - I'll bow to others on this and how it should work though it seems to already cover all the possible playback options known to man
2) "DVD" Style OSD (via the Menu Button) - this is the one I really want to replicate how it currently works in MC for DVD's but expanded to other Video Sources (both BD and Files) that just shows a full screen OSD that pauses playback and lets you see, access and select --> Titles, Subtitles, Lang / Streams.
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