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NEW: Improved OSD
jmone:
--- Quote from: NickF on August 25, 2012, 05:32:08 pm ---I'm with you, Nathan. I don't really understand the reluctance to do this. It seems a no brainier. I have nothing against the current OSD for access to other technical options but I rarely use it. I would use a DVD type menu frequently for changing streams, selecting chapters etc.
Nick.
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I'm sure Matt is thinking - but the "Bench Swing" we designed ourselves is waaaaaay better than that old Tyre Swing concept and you can do sooooo much more. Over time they will come to love the Bench Swing and forget they ever wanted the Tyre Swing.
The thing is I think each have their place, and all I want to do is (for my family) keep a consistant UI thought MC regardless of video type instead of saying, "well if the content was originally a DVD then you can use this way, else use this way". For my family, I see that they are very comfortable using the DVD Style menu to get access to the few playback selection items they need and while it works great with DVD's this feature is just "missing" when playing a BD or Video File (and that bit creates the confusion as the MC UI is just not consistant).
Matt:
--- Quote from: jmone on August 25, 2012, 05:52:56 pm ---The thing is I think each have their place, and all I want to do is (for my family) keep a consistant UI thought MC regardless of video type instead of saying, "well if the content was originally a DVD then you can use this way, else use this way". For my family, I see that they are very comfortable using the DVD Style menu to get access to the few playback selection items they need and while it works great with DVD's this feature is just "missing" when playing a BD or Video File (and that bit creates the confusion as the MC UI is just not consistant).
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If you want consistent, use the OSD for all playback types. It always looks and works the same. And now it's pretty easy.
Each DVD menu looks and works differently. There's simply no analog in an MKV, JTV, etc. We could try to make one, but it's not solving a real problem in my opinion. And it won't look the same as a DVD menu anyway, since they all look different.
glynor:
--- Quote from: JimH on August 25, 2012, 05:15:56 pm ---Matt,
Remember. This is the guy who designed the chicken coop that fed the neighborhood dingos.
Jim
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In completely unrelated news... Did you see that the Dingo really did eat the baby?
PS. Keep that Lab away from me. I swear, I'll install MC 18 as soon as I get back from my trip!
jmone:
--- Quote ---Each DVD menu looks and works differently.
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I agree, but they all tend to have the same feature for Selection of Titles, subs, streams etc. My point on consistency as not how the menu itself looked but that in MC the DVD style Menu only works for DVD not for other types.
--- Quote ---There's simply no analog in an MKV, JTV, etc.
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Sure there is, MKV can have multiple streams, chapters, subs just like like a DVD (and that are accessed by the DVD Menu) and obviously BD does. There are plenty of content that will only have one of each (eg Home Videos) but just like the MC OSD, it would still work just not provide any usefully functionality for these bits.
--- Quote ---We could try to make one, but it's not solving a real problem in my opinion.
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Like all of my brilliant ideas, I'm sure I'm right but if I've been unable to convince you then as the devs, you can always say "We can't do it", "We can't do it now as it is a lower priority", or even "Sod Off - its a crap idea" (of course I know your wrong but at which point I'll just gracefully bow out of a loosing argument!) :)
MrHaugen:
I do not understand the reason for filling up this thread with off topic issues like introducing a full screen menu for all video types. I for one, don't understand why people would want to pause their movie, break the current session with another screen, and go in and out of menus that takes a lot of time. The same things can and will be possible with the OSD, and it will be consistent, and it SHOULD be just as intuitive. If it's not, something have failed in this thread and development of the improved OSD.
When it comes to DVD and BluRay movies, there is no consistency. They are all different. So why should be try to do something similar? You want the menu structure only from these sources, and build a standard menu? In that case, ok. But I still can not understand the real need for such a thing.
Second point. This is a thread for suggestions and comments regarding the improved OSD that we have today. Not a totally new menu. Please let's comment on the OSD that is subject to change, and drop other things that would probably bring you nowhere anyway. If you want to push this idea, then start a new thread. I would rather spend the time to contribute with suggestions to make the current OSD better.
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