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[TreeFrog77]

I've had a strange problem creep up lately where when I place new M4A files into one of my import directories, MC imports them but shortly thereafter deletes them.  This actually caused me to completely lose some purchased tracks.

I turned on logging, copied a few M4A files over and waited.  MC did delete them again.  In looking through the log files, it appears it thinks they are episodes in some podcast and it's time to purge them.

I have attached the log for review.  It's very easy to see these events... just search for "M4A".  You'll see the import and the following purge.

Thanks.

Media Center
    Install Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\J River\Media Center 17\
    Interface Plugins: TiVo Server (not running)
    JRMark: never run
    Library: 24997 files, 5.8 MB in library, 200 MB in thumbnails
    Resources: 65.4 MB memory, 667 handles
    Version: 17.0.189.0 Registered
Batteries
    HID UPS Battery (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    Microsoft Composite Battery (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
Computer
    ACPI x64-based PC (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
Disk drives
    WDC WD10EARS-00Z5B1 ATA Device (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    WDC WD10EARS-22Y5B1 ATA Device (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
Display adapters
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 220  (driver 9.18.13.697)
DVD/CD-ROM drives
    ATAPI DVD A  DH20A6S ATA Device (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
Floppy disk drives
    Floppy disk drive (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
Floppy drive controllers
    Standard floppy disk controller (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
Human Interface Devices
    HID-compliant consumer control device (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    HID-compliant consumer control device (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    HID-compliant device (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    USB Input Device (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    USB Input Device (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    USB Input Device (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    USB Input Device (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers
    ATA Channel 0 (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    ATA Channel 0 (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    ATA Channel 0 (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    ATA Channel 1 (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    ATA Channel 1 (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    ATA Channel 1 (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Intel(R) ICH9 Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 1 - 2921 (driver 9.1.1.1013)
    Intel(R) ICH9 Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 2 - 2926 (driver 9.1.1.1013)
    Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers
    VIA 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
Keyboards
    HID Keyboard Device (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Standard PS/2 Keyboard (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
Memory
    Free Physical Memory: 6.3 GB
    Total Memory: 8.0 GB
Multifunction adapters
    PCI Multi-IO Controller (driver 2.0.1.0)
Network adapters
    Realtek PCI GBE Family Controller (driver 7.46.610.2011)
Operating System
    Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit
Ports (COM & LPT)
    Communications Port (COM1) (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    Keyspan USB Serial Port (COM5) (driver 3.7.0.5)
    PCI Serial Port (COM3) (driver 2.0.1.0)
    PCI Serial Port (COM4) (driver 2.0.1.0)
Processors
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q8300  @ 2.50GHz (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q8300  @ 2.50GHz (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q8300  @ 2.50GHz (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q8300  @ 2.50GHz (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
Sound, video and game controllers
    Converge USB TX  (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    High Definition Audio Device (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    High Definition Audio Device (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    High Definition Audio Device (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    High Definition Audio Device (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    High Definition Audio Device (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Virtual Audio Cable (driver 4.10.0.2537)
Storage volume shadow copies
    Generic volume shadow copy (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    Generic volume shadow copy (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    Generic volume shadow copy (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    Generic volume shadow copy (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    Generic volume shadow copy (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    Generic volume shadow copy (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    Generic volume shadow copy (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    Generic volume shadow copy (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    Generic volume shadow copy (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
System devices
    ACPI Fixed Feature Button (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    ACPI Power Button (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    ATK0110 ACPI UTILITY (driver 1043.6.0.0)
    Composite Bus Enumerator (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Direct memory access controller (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    File as Volume Driver (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    High Definition Audio Controller (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    High Definition Audio Controller (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    High precision event timer (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Intel(R) G33/G31/P35/P31 Express Chipset PCI Express Root Port - 29C1 (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Intel(R) G33/G31/P35/P31 Express Chipset Processor to I/O Controller - 29C0 (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 2940 (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 2948 (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Intel(R) ICH9 Family SMBus Controller - 2930 (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Intel(R) ICH9 LPC Interface Controller - 2918 (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Microsoft System Management BIOS Driver (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Microsoft Virtual Drive Enumerator Driver (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Motherboard resources (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Motherboard resources (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Motherboard resources (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Motherboard resources (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Numeric data processor (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    PCI bus (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Programmable interrupt controller (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Remote Desktop Device Redirector Bus (driver 6.1.7600.16385)
    System board (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    System board (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    System CMOS/real time clock (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    System speaker (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    System timer (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Terminal Server Keyboard Driver (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Terminal Server Mouse Driver (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    UMBus Enumerator (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    UMBus Root Bus Enumerator (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
    Volume Manager (driver 6.1.7601.17514)
Universal Serial Bus controllers
    Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2934 (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2935 (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2936 (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2937 (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2938 (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2939 (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293A (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293C (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    Keyspan USB Serial Adapter (driver 3.7.0.5)
    USB Composite Device (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    USB Composite Device (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    USB Root Hub (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    USB Root Hub (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    USB Root Hub (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    USB Root Hub (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    USB Root Hub (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    USB Root Hub (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    USB Root Hub (driver 6.1.7601.17586)
    USB Root Hub (driver 6.1.7601.17586)

[Matt]

Sorry about the tracks.

Are the files from a Podcast?  We collect Podcast episodes looking for files with a non-blank 'Feed URL'.

What's in the Feed URL of the files?  Does it match one of the Podcast feeds in Media Center?

[TreeFrog77]

What's in the Feed URL of the files?  Does it match one of the Podcast feeds in Media Center?

While these files are not from a podcast, this group does seem to have a "PODCASTURL" meta in them, although it is not a url.  It is simply a number, "005698".

So, I would assume if I removed this tag from the files, MC would not target them from purging.  While this could be a workaround, it still concerns me that MC would be purging files from anything with something defined in that meta tag, when it is not "in charge" of managing that podcast's episodes.

For instance... what would happen if I copied some episodes of a podcast from another source into my library?  Would MC just purge those?

[Matt]

So, I would assume if I removed this tag from the files, MC would not target them from purging.  While this could be a workaround, it still concerns me that MC would be purging files from anything with something defined in that meta tag, when it is not "in charge" of managing that podcast's episodes.

It's a bug and we'll fix it.  I just need some help figuring it out.

What are your settings in Options > Podcast > Deleting Old Episodes?

[TreeFrog77]

What are your settings in Options > Podcast > Deleting Old Episodes?

See attached.

[MrC]

I've kept this thread in a Firefox tab as a reminder to update something on the wiki.  Did this get resolved?

It appears that MC is using the query:

   -[Feed URL]=[]

to find purge candidates.  Perhaps this should be:

   -[Feed URL]=[]  [Media Sub Type]=[Podcast]

Anyway, my bump here means I can now close the tab.