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[abrise]

I have two computers with a dvb t receiver. On both I can receive and display all sd and HD channels on windows media center. However with JRiver I can see only sd channels or HD chanels with audio mpeg  not ac3. Even on one of the computers channels with ac3 are not found.
I reside in France, I use win8 pro  and JRiver 19
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This channel is displayed
Network ID: 8442
Service ID: 1031
TSID: 4
Frequency: 506000
Bandwidth: 8
ONID: 8442
Audio PID: 730
Video PID: 720
Audio format: MPEG-1 Audio
Video format: AVC1/H.264


This Channel is not displayed on one of the computer and not even found on the other one although Windows Media Player plays it on both.
Network ID: 27
Service ID: 1282
TSID: 5
Frequency: 522167
Bandwidth: 8
ONID: 27
Audio PID: 210
Video PID: 220
Audio format: Dolby AC3
Video format: AVC1/H.264

What should I do in order to get all channels found and displayed?

Thanks in advance.

[Yaobing]

I can not think of a reason why this is happening.  Please provide me a log.  I hope it will give me some clues.  Please refer to this thread about generating logs.  Email the log to me - yaobing at jriver dot com

[Yaobing]

I receive the log from you this morning.

The problem channel you mentioned above, as well as the other channels in the groups MR5, MHD7, and R8 have one thing in common - we failed to find an audio stream in these channels.


CMPEG2SectionsAndTablesParser::ParsePMT: TSID: 5, SID: 1282 (MR5, France 2 HD), PMT PID 210, video PID 220, audio PID 0 ()


Perhaps there are other ways of presenting an audio stream that I am not aware of.  I see streams with stream type 6 for example, but do not know how to interpret it.  Does anyone know?

[Yaobing]

In some countries (Australia, UK etc., even in France as shown in your log) AC3 audio streams are presented as Type 6, and described with a descriptor of ID 0x6A.  Such descriptor was not found in the cases of those problem channels.  However, all of the problem channels (that are missing audio PIDs) have one thing in common, they do have one or more streams that are of type 6.  Maybe they are the audio streams?  Do you recognize some of the PIDs that are labelled "OTHER: "?  And how do we identify them in MC?

VIDEO: PID 120
OTHER: PID 130 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 131 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 132 TYPE 6
SUBTITLING: PID 150
SUBTITLING: PID 151
TSID: 10, SID: 2561 (MHD7, HD1), PMT PID 100, video PID 120, audio PID 0 ()

VIDEO: PID 220
OTHER: PID 230 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 231 TYPE 6
SUBTITLING: PID 250
TSID: 10, SID: 2562 (MHD7, L'Equipe 21), PMT PID 210, video PID 220, audio PID 0 ()

VIDEO: PID 320
OTHER: PID 330 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 331 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 332 TYPE 6
SUBTITLING: PID 350
TSID: 10, SID: 2563 (MHD7, Chérie 25), PMT PID 300, video PID 320, audio PID 0 ()

VIDEO: PID 120
OTHER: PID 130 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 131 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 132 TYPE 6
SUBTITLING: PID 140
SUBTITLING: PID 141
TSID: 11, SID: 2817 (R8, 6ter), PMT PID 110, video PID 120, audio PID 0 ()

VIDEO: PID 220
OTHER: PID 230 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 231 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 232 TYPE 6
SUBTITLING: PID 240
SUBTITLING: PID 241
TSID: 11, SID: 2818 (R8, NUMERO 23), PMT PID 210, video PID 220, audio PID 0 ()

VIDEO: PID 320
OTHER: PID 330 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 331 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 332 TYPE 6
SUBTITLING: PID 340
SUBTITLING: PID 341
TSID: 11, SID: 2819 (R8, RMC DECOUVERTE), PMT PID 310, video PID 320, audio PID 0 ()

VIDEO: PID 120
OTHER: PID 130 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 131 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 132 TYPE 6
SUBTITLING: PID 140
SUBTITLING: PID 141
OTHER: PID 170 TYPE 5
TSID: 5, SID: 1281 (MR5, TF1 HD), PMT PID 110, video PID 120, audio PID 0 ()

VIDEO: PID 220
OTHER: PID 230 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 231 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 232 TYPE 6
SUBTITLING: PID 240
SUBTITLING: PID 241
OTHER: PID 270 TYPE 5
OTHER: PID 271 TYPE 11
OTHER: PID 272 TYPE 12
TSID: 5, SID: 1282 (MR5, France 2 HD), PMT PID 210, video PID 220, audio PID 0 ()

OTHER: PID 330 TYPE 6
VIDEO: PID 320
OTHER: PID 331 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 332 TYPE 6
SUBTITLING: PID 340
SUBTITLING: PID 341
OTHER: PID 370 TYPE 5
OTHER: PID 371 TYPE 11
OTHER: PID 372 TYPE 12
TSID: 5, SID: 1283 (MR5, M6HD), PMT PID 310, video PID 320, audio PID 0 ()

[abrise]

In some countries (Australia, UK etc., even in France as shown in your log) AC3 audio streams are presented as Type 6, and described with a descriptor of ID 0x6A.  Such descriptor was not found in the cases of those problem channels.  However, all of the problem channels (that are missing audio PIDs) have one thing in common, they do have one or more streams that are of type 6.  Maybe they are the audio streams?  Do you recognize some of the PIDs that are labelled "OTHER: "?  And how do we identify them in MC?

VIDEO: PID 120
OTHER: PID 130 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 131 TYPE 6
OTHER: PID 132 TYPE 6
SUBTITLING: PID 150
SUBTITLING: PID 151
TSID: 10, SID: 2561 (MHD7, HD1), PMT PID 100, video PID 120, audio PID 0 ()

I check the PID with another tv software ProgDVB6 , the PID shown as OTHERS are the audio channels. In the above exemple PID 130 is given as AC3 french, PID 131 as AC3 qaa , PID 132 as AC3 qad. It is the same for the other channels.
After doing some google search, I realize that these channels are  not AC3 but AC3+ or enhanced AC3 or eAC3. And then I found in this document page 28 , http://www.csa.fr/content/download/16480/308960/file/CSA%20Profil%20de%20signalisation%20v3%203.pdf , that  its descriptor ID is not 0x6A but 0x7A. (Enhanced_AC_3_descriptor).
The above document being in french , I have searched for a document in English for you and I have found this one http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/300400_300499/300468/01.10.01_40/en_300468v011001o.pdf
Please look at page 31.
Are JRiver already taking  0x7A into account ?

[Yaobing]

I check the PID with another tv software ProgDVB6 , the PID shown as OTHERS are the audio channels. In the above exemple PID 130 is given as AC3 french, PID 131 as AC3 qaa , PID 132 as AC3 qad. It is the same for the other channels.
After doing some google search, I realize that these channels are  not AC3 but AC3+ or enhanced AC3 or eAC3. And then I found in this document page 28 , http://www.csa.fr/content/download/16480/308960/file/CSA%20Profil%20de%20signalisation%20v3%203.pdf , that  its descriptor ID is not 0x6A but 0x7A. (Enhanced_AC_3_descriptor).
The above document being in french , I have searched for a document in English for you and I have found this one http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/300400_300499/300468/01.10.01_40/en_300468v011001o.pdf
Please look at page 31.

Thanks for the info.  This is very helpful.

Are JRiver already taking  0x7A into account ?

No.  That is why we are missing these channels.

[Yaobing]

Please download this DLL.  Unzip and copy into MC installation folder.

[abrise]

Please download this DLL.  Unzip and copy into MC installation folder.

Thank you very much Yaobing,
I have tested the new dll and it works. Now all channels are found and displayed. I am very happy.

[Yaobing]

Great! That is good to hear.