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Trelane

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New MPC Plugin (version 1.0)
« on: March 17, 2002, 11:48:24 am »

After a week's worth of testing and squashing bugs, 1.0 is here. Current features include:

- Dithering
- Noise Shaping
- Fast seeking
- APE 1.0 and ID3 1.x tagging support
- No longer based on the Winamp plugin; it is now based on Frank Klemm's decoder (version 0.99d)

More information: http://www.naivesoftware.com
Direct download: http://www.naivesoftware.com/files/musepackmj.zip

Please keep in mind that this plugin is for Media Jukebox version 8.0 and above. Users of version 7.2 will need to upgrade if they wish to use this plugin.

Let me know if you find any bugs.
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RE:New MPC Plugin (version 1.0)
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2002, 02:44:03 pm »

Great work with everything!

>APE 1.0

What's the 1.0 mean?  There shouldn't be a need for a version, because the tagging architecture itself has versioning and extensibility built into it.  If somebody is planning to fork from the APETag spec, hopefully they'll talk to me first...

-Matt
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RE:New MPC Plugin (version 1.0)
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2002, 02:50:12 pm »

Maybe a Typo
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Trelane

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RE:New MPC Plugin (version 1.0)
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2002, 03:04:24 pm »

Matt:
Frank has been talking about APE 2.0 lately. From what I've read in the SV8 proposal, it's 100% backwards compatible with 1.0 and has the addition of a very basic (artist, title, and album, I think) tag added to the beginning of the file for streaming purposes. He's mentioned a number of times that you'll have to approve, so I imagine he'll be contacting you once he has the specs complete.

Thanks for the kind words about the plugin Next Page
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RE:New MPC Plugin (version 1.0)
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2002, 09:39:39 pm »

Trelane,
Your work on this is much appreciated.  

Thanks,

Jim
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RE:New MPC Plugin (version 1.0)
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2002, 10:45:46 pm »

Mike,

Bravo ! you have done a great job with the MPC plugin Next Page

JRiver : don't you think Mike's plugin could find its way to the plugin page at mediajukebox.com ?
(BTW there's a typo error on the input plug-in page : VQF plugin appears under a MP  banner !)

Bonne journée.
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RE:New MPC Plugin (version 1.0)
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2002, 10:51:42 pm »

cmagic,
Thanks for the typo and yes, we should add the plugin.  I've asked Nikolay.
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RE:New MPC Plugin (version 1.0)
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2002, 12:34:41 am »

Jim,
It's 3 A.M in Minneapolis, you work too hard ! Next Page
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RE:New MPC Plugin (version 1.0)
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2002, 04:57:10 am »

It looks like it's not only going to find it's way to MJ website, but going to be included in Media Jukebox 8.0 builds.

Nikolay
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RE:New MPC Plugin (version 1.0)
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2002, 05:09:03 am »

way to go Nikolay

Trelane, you have a done an outstanding job so far on this.
We are many mpc & MJ users who owe you big for this one! (especially when we get the notes & lyrics in the tags as well
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Trelane

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RE:New MPC Plugin (version 1.0)
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2002, 10:16:59 am »

Thanks for all the compliments and support! Next Page
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RE:New MPC Plugin (version 1.0)
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2002, 11:22:23 am »

Stupid Question but.

What is MPC and how does it differ to MP3 etc.
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RE:New MPC Plugin (version 1.0)
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2002, 11:59:21 am »

Not a stupid question at all.

MPC is a relatively new format, which like mp3, wma, ogg is a lossy format. Meaning that technically you loose some
of the quality from the original source, but gain the advantage of a much smaller file size.

The difference between MPC (also called Musepack) and the other lossy formats, is that the quality of the sound is much better than the other lossy formats, and the file size is about the same.

If this was the only difference...well all would be well!

But one of the downsides is that if you like portable equipment - it is not compatible yet.

If you prioritize portability - mpc wouldnt be your choice. If you prioritize excellent sound quality and want to save disk space, mpc would be your choice.

Here is a paste from another thread, where you find info on how to get started on mpc - so you can try it out with MJ and listen for yourself:

MPC Input plugin
Get the cool beta input mpc plugin, especially designed for MJ v.8 here: (Trelane, the guy who is writing it, is
the coolest, most kind and efficient guy)

http://www.naivesoftware.com


Encoder
Get the latest and fastest mpc encoder here:

http://www.uni-jena.de/~pfk/mpp/#encoder-binaries

Choose 0.90s.


Now you got what you need.
In MJ, go to Options, Encoding, choose External encoder, choose the position of the unzipped o.90s encoder.
Then in the second line, below "Exe path", type: --xtreme %IN %OUT
That setting will make the encoder encode in the xtreme-setting. Basically there are three settings:
Standard- type: "--verbose %IN %OUT"
Xtreme-type:as above
Insane-type: "--insane %IN %OUT"

In the line "Extension" overwrite the existing "mp|PLS|" with "mpc"

Then in MJ, go to Settings, choose Pluginmanager, choose Add plugin, and select the mpc plugin that you downloaded from naivesoftware's page.
When you have installed this input plugin, you should see it in the list in plugin manager under Input plugins.
Select then this mpc plugin and choose "configure".
Usually the default settings here are as they should be - consider checking the dithering option.
Now you are set to go, both in encoding and playing mpc files.
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