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sat4all

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Sub Engine
« on: September 11, 2013, 05:51:29 pm »

hello everyone,

is it possible some how to use xysubfilter as subtitle render for MC 19? Because i got heavy issues with MC18 and 19 subtitle engine!
My prefered font looks horrible under MC beside Size is unchagable what ever you do set, it goes back to 16...(same font work great with mpc-hc)

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=82161.msg565620#msg565620

plz give us an answer.

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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2013, 06:37:46 pm »

It's not possible to use xysubfilter.

If you post details about the problem you're having, including a way to reproduce it (sub file or sample video), there's a good chance we'll be able to fix it.

Thanks.
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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2013, 05:02:13 am »

the 1st prob, MC19 doesn't support arabic characters.



2nd thing, font size is unchagable. what ever i set i get a popup window saying that the size must be between 12 and 12 points as showen below.



thank you!
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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2013, 05:50:37 am »

2nd thing, font size is unchagable. what ever i set i get a popup window saying that the size must be between 12 and 12 points as showen below.
Font size is set in the options window, not the subtitle font selection. By default it is 100%.
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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2013, 06:51:24 am »

Font size is set in the options window, not the subtitle font selection. By default it is 100%.

ok my friend thank you, lets wait now for some fix about the arabic characteres.
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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2013, 09:06:36 am »

the 1st prob, MC19 doesn't support arabic characters.

Could you give a way for us to reproduce?

I just tested a Hebrew sample file I have here and the subtitles look basically the same in MC and MPC-HC.

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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2013, 12:43:29 pm »

correct characters under mpc-hc (same fonts,script...)

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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2013, 12:48:11 pm »

Could you give a way for us to reproduce?
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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2013, 03:24:02 pm »

i got it now, i had to set non unicode programmes language to arabic in my windows settings.
but still not perfect! the symbols (?,-") not in their correct places and also the font look very different compared to mpc-hc or any other programme.



i have attached sub file sample and the font file. what else can i provide to help fixing this?

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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2013, 04:30:57 pm »

Thanks for the sample.

There are two issues:

1) How to interpret ANSI text.  My belief is that any Unicode should be saved as UTF-8, UTF-16, etc. instead of an ambiguous ANSI format.  I don't understand why SRT files aren't all saved like this already.  Normally you can use Notepad (or Notepad++) to convert when necessary.

2) Rendering of LTR fonts with advanced joining rules like Arabic present a challenge for the JRiver text engine.  It's an area I'd like to improve through the course of MC19.
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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2013, 05:49:34 pm »

Thanks for the sample.

There are two issues:

1) How to interpret ANSI text.  My belief is that any Unicode should be saved as UTF-8, UTF-16, etc. instead of an ambiguous ANSI format.  I don't understand why SRT files aren't all saved like this already.  Normally you can use Notepad (or Notepad++) to convert when necessary.

2) Rendering of LTR fonts with advanced joining rules like Arabic present a challenge for the JRiver text engine.  It's an area I'd like to improve through the course of MC19.

thanks alot for you time my friend.
i will stay tunned to any improvement regarding the text engine.
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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2013, 12:25:50 pm »

It's possible the fix coming in the next build for Thai will also help Arabic:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=83774.msg572428#msg572428

Any testing or feedback would be appreciated once the build is public.
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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2013, 12:49:57 pm »

too much improvement regarding the font, but still some issues like symbols not showing in their correct places.

thank you & best regards
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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2013, 12:54:49 pm »

too much improvement regarding the font, but still some issues like symbols not showing in their correct places.

Could you provide details and a way to reproduce?

Thanks.
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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2013, 01:16:38 pm »

Could you provide details and a way to reproduce?

Thanks.

take a look at the post12 (.srt attached) and compare it to my mpc-hc screenshot.
it's all about punctuation marks now.

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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2013, 08:30:16 pm »

take a look at the post12 (.srt attached) and compare it to my mpc-hc screenshot.
it's all about punctuation marks now.

thanks

Post 12 doesn't have a screenshot.  The only screenshot above from MC is before the recent fixes.  Could you try again?

Also, is the punctuation on the wrong side of the word, or just using the wrong glyph?

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Re: Sub Engine
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2013, 04:27:35 am »

Post 12 doesn't have a screenshot.  The only screenshot above from MC is before the recent fixes.  Could you try again?

Also, is the punctuation on the wrong side of the word, or just using the wrong glyph?

Thanks.

yes on the wrong side.



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