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haralson

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Can Excessive Dynamic Range Be Modified?
« on: January 09, 2014, 05:06:44 pm »

I use JRiver exclusively for playback of hi-res classical music.

Expanded dynamics is one of the perceived advantages of high-resolution recordings, but many of the classical albums I download have an unnaturally wide dynamic range. If I set my playback level to accommodate peaks, low-level passages often become completely inaudible, so I must "ride gain" in order to maintain realistic levels — a major distraction when I want to enjoy the music.

I would like to boost gently the level of quiet passages, without resorting to the hyper-compression that one associates with pop music. I simply want to be able to hear all the notes without gravely distorting the vision of the artists.

A friend recently asked JRiver whether your DSP Studio feature can be adapted to modify dynamic range. Your representative told him that a VST plug-in might solve the problem. I had never heard of VST. When I investigated the subject online, I discovered an array of ingenious products that seem too exotic for my purpose. (One that caught my attention was a synthesized special effect that plays in synch with the rhythm of the music!)

Can you please suggest a VST product that will perform the modest dynamic compression I need, but will not include a lot of extra features I do not want?

Many thanks for your advice on this matter.

John Haralson
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Re: Can Excessive Dynamic Range Be Modified?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2014, 07:26:56 pm »

Try using the Adaptive Volume DSP in "Night Mode"
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Re: Can Excessive Dynamic Range Be Modified?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2014, 08:21:16 pm »

Have you analysed your audio and checked out capabilities of MC in the following posts?
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=68605.0
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=82025.0

I'd expect that the Adaptive Volume function requires Analyse Audio as a pre-requisite.
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Re: Can Excessive Dynamic Range Be Modified?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 08:29:03 pm »

I'd expect that the Adaptive Volume function requires Analyse Audio as a pre-requisite.
You only neeed to analyze audio for Peak Level Normalize mode to work correctly. (though I suggest enabling analyze audio on import so that everything gets analyzed automatically)
 
"Night Mode" should be the same whether files are analyzed or not.
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Re: Can Excessive Dynamic Range Be Modified?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2014, 09:20:28 pm »

I'd expect that the Adaptive Volume function requires Analyse Audio as a pre-requisite.
You only neeed to analyze audio for Peak Level Normalize mode to work correctly. (though I suggest enabling analyze audio on import so that everything gets analyzed automatically)
 
"Night Mode" should be the same whether files are analyzed or not.

Fair enough. Good to know.

I made the comment because @haralson gave me the impression that he may have missed employing audio analysis completely.

My collection is fully analysed and I don't have volume problems with Volume Leveling enabled and Adaptive Volume enabled to Peak Level Normalise. It's only very rarely that I have to "ride the gain" and if I do, it's by a smidgin (0.5 - 1.0dB). So, there's no need for some 3rd party VST plugin. It all just read a little odd...   ;)
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Re: Can Excessive Dynamic Range Be Modified?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2014, 10:14:35 pm »

Thanks for the responses.

I am aware of Volume Levelling, but perhaps I do not understand its function. I thought Volume Levelling (and the audio analysis it requires) is intended to affect an entire track or album that is non-standard. My problem with dynamic extremes is more subtle than that. My understanding is that if Volume Levelling used an extremely quiet passage as its benchmark, it would bring that passage up to a standard/average level but would dramatically increase higher levels in the track, to the point of clipping. However, if Volume Levelling works on smaller increments of a file (e.g., limited to those that are extremely low level) perhaps it will meet my needs.

I will read the posts you mentioned and also investigate Night Mode. However, if Night Mode has the capability of solving my problem, I wonder why JRiver's representative did not mention it my friend who enquired recently on my behalf. Instead, the representative suggested a third-party plug-in.

With your help, eventually I will get to the bottom of this! Thanks again.
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