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RussellS

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Ripping Multi CD Albums (& Possible Feature Request)
« on: April 28, 2014, 02:23:57 pm »

It is only recently that I have started using MC to RIP my CD's, in the past I have always used CDex. There is a particular functionality in CDex which I find very useful and I cannot find a way of achieving the same thing in MC but maybe I'm not looking in the right place.

What I want is to be able to rip a multi CD album into a single folder and have the track numbers run sequentially all the way through in both the filename and the tags instead of having each CD titled individually with the track numbers starting at 01.

In the CDex ripping screen you have an option of entering a track offset so that it numbers the tracks from there. So, for instance, if you had a two CD album with each CD having 10 tracks then you would rip the first CD as normal but the second CD you would enter a track offset of 10 so that the filename and tags will be numbered from 11 onwards.

Is there anything similar in MC and if not may I suggest it as a possible future implementation.
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Re: Ripping Multi CD Albums (& Possible Feature Request)
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2014, 02:44:51 pm »

The easiest way to accomplish this is to edit the Track # column before the rip, in the file list, or via the Tag Action Window.  The tracks will initially be set to 1 through n.  You'd select the tracks, edit the tag using your favorite method, and enter:

  =counter(x)

where x is the first index you want used for the rip.  This will renumber the tracks starting with x.  Be sure the tracks are sorted correctly before editing the Track # field and entering the expression above.

The CD rip dialog that appears - enter whatever information you want there, or just use the file list view below to set tags pre-rip (or the Tag Action Window).  I have a CD rip file list columns Preset that is used for my CD ripping file list view.
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Re: Ripping Multi CD Albums (& Possible Feature Request)
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2014, 03:22:44 pm »

The easiest way to accomplish this is to edit the Track # column before the rip, in the file list, or via the Tag Action Window.  The tracks will initially be set to 1 through n.  You'd select the tracks, edit the tag using your favorite method, and enter:

  =counter(x)

where x is the first index you want used for the rip.  This will renumber the tracks starting with x.  Be sure the tracks are sorted correctly before editing the Track # field and entering the expression above.

The CD rip dialog that appears - enter whatever information you want there, or just use the file list view below to set tags pre-rip (or the Tag Action Window).  I have a CD rip file list columns Preset that is used for my CD ripping file list view.

Thanks MrC, that's just what I was looking for and works a treat.

Thanks again.
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Re: Ripping Multi CD Albums (& Possible Feature Request)
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2014, 03:33:52 pm »

As a side note, RussellS, are you aware that the library field [Disc #] is useful for multi-disc albums?

This field can be used instead of including Disc # as free text in the library field [Album].

I file my multi-discs in separate folders physically on its disc but with the same [Album] field and the correct [Disc #], MC natively catalogues the tracks sorted by disc number and then track number so that in Album View only 1 album is shown giving a neat, pro look.
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Re: Ripping Multi CD Albums (& Possible Feature Request)
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2014, 03:59:30 pm »

As a side note, RussellS, are you aware that the library field [Disc #] is useful for multi-disc albums?

This field can be used instead of including Disc # as free text in the library field [Album].

I file my multi-discs in separate folders physically on its disc but with the same [Album] field and the correct [Disc #], MC natively catalogues the tracks sorted by disc number and then track number so that in Album View only 1 album is shown giving a neat, pro look.

No I wasn't aware of that but I wish I had been before I started re-ripping all my CD's.

Still it's good to know for the future.

Thanks
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Re: Ripping Multi CD Albums (& Possible Feature Request)
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2014, 05:10:16 pm »

You might like this to help you during your pre- and post-rip process:

   http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=84268.0

I now use it (and discogs.pl) prior to all my rips to grab the metadata I want.  Relevant to this thread, you can specify how you want Track # and Disc # values to be set.
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Re: Ripping Multi CD Albums (& Possible Feature Request)
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2014, 06:36:13 pm »

Thanks again MrC, I'll look into that.

Just one other thing, I'm having some problems with the online CD database lookup. I see from some of your other posts that MC will look up YADB first and then if that comes up empty it will use Freedb.

The problem I'm having is that YADB is returning some wrong results when I know that Freedb has the correct ones. The problem is that because YADB is returning something then I'm not even getting the option of the Freedb results. Is there any way of either getting both or ignoring the YADB and going straight for the Freedb ones.

I have one particular album where the track order is completely wrong and one track is completely different. I think it is because YADB is showing a US version of the album whereas my UK version of the same album is different. I know that Freedb has the correct track listing in it's database but I can't access it with MC.

Any ideas?
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Re: Ripping Multi CD Albums (& Possible Feature Request)
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2014, 06:45:51 pm »

YADB always wins.

See Reply #5.  :-)
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Re: Ripping Multi CD Albums (& Possible Feature Request)
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2014, 02:48:39 am »

I too use both the "Disc #" and "Track #" fields in MC but also do a Rename (see pic) so the files are named so that dumber players (like phones etc) keep them all in the correct order when you sync content to them.  "The Wall" just does not make sense otherwise!
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Re: Ripping Multi CD Albums (& Possible Feature Request)
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2014, 08:04:15 am »

Jmone, that is a great way to do it, but I still have trouble with Rename, Move, & Copy Files. 

Your expression works fine for multi-disc Albums, but I'd like something that works for single-disc Albums as well (ie if Disc # is blank).  If I use Delimit([Disc #,0])[Track #] [Name] - [Album Artist (Auto)], it puts a space in between the Disc # and Track # (ie 1 01).  I've tried various forward slash tricks, but I still can't get rid of the space.  I must be doing something wrong. 
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Re: Ripping Multi CD Albums (& Possible Feature Request)
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2014, 10:23:31 am »

Thanks a lot guys, lots of good advice and ideas there.

Food for thought.
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Re: Ripping Multi CD Albums (& Possible Feature Request)
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2014, 12:30:41 pm »

Jmone, that is a great way to do it, but I still have trouble with Rename, Move, & Copy Files. 

Your expression works fine for multi-disc Albums, but I'd like something that works for single-disc Albums as well (ie if Disc # is blank).  If I use Delimit([Disc #,0])[Track #] [Name] - [Album Artist (Auto)], it puts a space in between the Disc # and Track # (ie 1 01).  I've tried various forward slash tricks, but I still can't get rid of the space.  I must be doing something wrong. 

The tail argument defaults to Space in Delimit():

   http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Expression_Language#Delimit

Use:
 
  Delimit([Disc #,0],)

to specify an empty tail.
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Re: Ripping Multi CD Albums (& Possible Feature Request)
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2014, 03:51:44 pm »

Uhg, I was so close.  Why couldn't I figure that out?  I was thinking it had to be something like Delimit([Disc #,0],/), when I should of been thinking KISS.

Thank you once again MrC. 
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