hey steve-
mark here, we've been emailing for the last few months about various Rio problems. i decided to give it a rest for a while, but them i saw this postfrom pmiller and decided to add my 2 cents. i'll start by saying that i have the most current M.J. 8.0.214 build and Rio plugin (Rio 800). the plugin is so close to working. i have the Rio "Extreme" which has a total of 384MB of memory (256MB internal, and a 128MB backpack). it seems that MJ won't let me fill it up, particularly the internal memory. yesterday i managed to almost fill the external with files, but then when i tried to fill the remainder of the internal memory, the program crashed. i might add that the only way i was able to successfully fill the external memory was slowly- 5 files at a time. but the problem is not only with MJ- I have also noticed the same phemomenon with Music Match. I never have a problem with Rio Audio Manager- i am able to pick about 85 songs (roughly the capacity of the player) and just sit and let them load (first to the external, then to the internal, not simultaneously) No problem- no crashes. the only problem is that Rio's software sucks. I use M.J. for everything else- i rarely open Music Match or Windows Media Player. I love your software- it's just that seamless use with a Rio handheld is tantalizingly just out of reach. i mean, it's not earth-shattering, but slightly frustrating. thanks a lot! mark. mset68@yahoo.com