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TV's and Displays in the Future
Matt:
--- Quote from: glynor on August 27, 2014, 12:52:51 pm ---as you're hitting the limits of what can comfortably fit in rooms. And, people just don't want to sit that close.
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I watch on an almost 10 foot screen. It's awesome.
glynor:
--- Quote from: Matt on August 27, 2014, 12:57:48 pm ---I watch on an almost 10 foot screen. It's awesome.
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Yeah, I've been known to do that too, sitting "way too close", but we're weird.
6233638:
--- Quote from: glynor on August 27, 2014, 12:52:51 pm ---That said, there is still very little or no benefit to 4K TVs with current typical display size and seating arrangements. I also think it is unlikely that we'll see a further dramatic increase in typical display sizes, as you're hitting the limits of what can comfortably fit in rooms. And, people just don't want to sit that close.
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I think it depends on what you consider "typical display size and seating arrangements".
Outside the US, most homes are considerably smaller, so you aren't sitting 15ft away from your TV.
The screens may also be smaller, but relative to the viewing distance are often the same size, and possibly even larger now, considering that displays usually jump from 46" to 55/58" rather than 50" and then from 55" to 65" now.
A friend recently upgraded from a 46" 1080p display to a 65" 4K one, and he was a bit underwhelmed.
Not because the difference was so small, but because the pixels are still clearly visible on the display to him, because the size upgrade brought the pixel density back down to about 65 PPI - which isn't that much better than the ~50 PPI he had before. He has had five replacement displays now (yes, really) because they all had dead/stuck pixels that were obvious from his seating position. (along with other issues)
Eventually he dropped from the X-series Sony to the W-series since it uses an IPS panel instead, and while the contrast isn't as good it didn't have most of the defects the other sets did.
--- Quote from: glynor on August 27, 2014, 12:52:51 pm ---Color gamut matters. 2160p might look better, but the improvement is very marginal until you get to "theater" sized displays. Certainly not something that the unwashed masses will throw away their working TVs to get.
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I agree that color gamut is a big deal. That, and moving beyond 8-bit to accommodate it. (8-bit wide gamut content is rough)
The current HDMI 2.0 specs are very discouraging. Hopefully HDMI 2.1 or 2.2 will sort things out.
--- Quote from: glynor on August 27, 2014, 12:52:51 pm ---And that has been the goal of all of the "waves" of "next big things" in display technology (4K the latest in a long string). Reclaim the "glory days" of the first HD upgrade cycle. It isn't likely to come again anytime soon (or, at least, not from any of this stuff).
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Manufacturers fail to realize that the big surge in TV sales was nothing to do with HD or 1080p, but simply due to flat panels becoming cheap enough that people could afford to replace their bulky CRTs with one.
Things like size, image quality, and resolution were secondary to that.
Unless there is something truly revolutionary—which 3D, curved displays, OLED, wide gamuts, or 3mm thin displays are not—I doubt it will happen again.
glynor:
--- Quote from: 6233638 on August 27, 2014, 03:10:13 pm ---Things like size, image quality, and resolution were secondary to that.
Unless there is something truly revolutionary—which 3D, curved displays, OLED, wide gamuts, or 3mm thin displays are not—I doubt it will happen again.
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+1
ferday:
--- Quote from: 6233638 on August 27, 2014, 03:10:13 pm ---
Unless there is something truly revolutionary—which 3D, curved displays, OLED, wide gamuts, or 3mm thin displays are not—I doubt it will happen again.
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i can't find my link to the study, but one of the big makers (IIRC LG) did a big study on what consumers wanted. the consensus was basically a projecter screen, that could be hung or transported anywhere, but was in actuality a functional TV. if we could really turn a wall into a TV in minutes, i think the majority of people would jump on the bandwagon even if it went back to 480p
i run a full 12 foot screen with my HDPJ and with my somewhat far viewing distance i don't get any horrifying images or screen door even with 480 TV. certainly 1080 is much better but i would really hesitate to use overwhelming to describe the difference. i'm hesitant about 4k and it won't be affordable in projection for quite some time yet...
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