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Harry The Hipster

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Napster: Payback Time?
« on: January 30, 2002, 11:42:59 pm »

From today's NYTimes:

" SAN FRANCISCO, Jan. 30 — The major record companies, which two weeks ago surprised analysts by seeking a temporary suspension in their copyright lawsuit against Napster, were about to face potentially damaging inquiries into their own behavior on maintaining copyrights.

According to transcripts made public today, the judge in the case said on Jan. 16 that she intended to grant a request by Napster to explore whether the record companies might have colluded to prevent Napster and other online music competitors from licensing music to sell on the Internet. The judge, Marilyn Patel of the Federal District Court in Northern California, also said she would allow Napster to explore whether the record companies might not control all the copyrights they claimed to own."

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This beef isn't just about protecting artistic rights - it's about vertical control of an entirely new product and marketplace. The judge finally got hip to it, and so has the Dept of Justice. A copyright is simply the weapon of choice....

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kitfox

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RE:Napster: Payback Time?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2002, 06:18:50 am »

and to think, Harry, that's precisely what you've been saying all along . . .
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Callithumpian

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RE:Napster: Payback Time?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2002, 02:21:56 pm »

No no no no no.
I refuse to accept that the Labels have ever acted in any other capacity than as the faithful servant of the Artists and the Artists rights.

Can Napster (or anyone else) still seek access from the courts to pursuit such investigations anyway?
If proceedings are abandoned at the Labels' behest, does that free Napster to carry on as before?  (If not, why not)
Doesn't this give others, who are the subject of the Labels' odious legal crushing machine, a chink in the armour (an eye in the cyclops might be better) at which to aim?
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Callithumpian

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RE:Napster: Payback Time?
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2002, 05:38:52 pm »

The Onion, for those of who don't know it, is a paragon of commentary through reflection (of us).
Hilarious and serious all at once.
Their take, in this week's edition, on the increasingly ludricrous and unworthy nature of our judicial apparatus is worth a look.

http://www.theonion.com/onion3803/judge_orders_god.html
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Harry The Hipster

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RE:Napster: Payback Time?
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2002, 10:38:35 pm »

"The law is a ass; the law is a idiot."

-- Mr. Bumble in Charles Dickens' Oliver Twist

HTH
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Q'dAddY

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RE:Napster: Payback Time?
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2002, 10:02:47 am »

..Nice Quote , Harry ;o)...Reeeeeeeeespect ;o)


"If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything." - ?
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IQ10

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RE:Napster: Payback Time?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2002, 06:21:32 am »

HTH, aka Harry_The_Tipster wrote, "This beef isn't just about protecting artistic rights - it's about vertical control of an entirely new product and marketplace. The judge finally got hip to it, and so has the Dept of Justice. A copyright is simply the weapon of choice..."

Sometimes, the past catches up with the present.  In a case from 1990, the Court made clear the danger of just one wrongful act. Apparently, it takes just one drop of black paint to make a gallon of white useless to paint a copyright.  http://www.lgu.com/publications/softcopy/13.shtml

The RIAA did NOT ask Judge Pattel to suspend consideration of their copyright claims, to give their lawyers time for a vacation.  It may be time to turn Music01 downloading back on.  The current models and methods for compensation are not primarily designed to compensate creators.  Worse, such efforts divert and delay energy that is needed to develop such models.

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