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daveman

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MKV files and WDTV
« on: February 17, 2015, 06:41:57 am »

HI there,

I have recently started to use .mkv files for hi def (1080p) videos.  I am having an issue where I am unable to fast forward or rewind when steaming to a WDTV (i.e., the video will simply return to the beginning) .  Even if I try to "force" a video to a certain time via the MC interface, it will simply start over.

Anyone know of a fix or setting that will allow mkv videos to play properly?

Dave
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BartMan01

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Re: MKV files and WDTV
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2015, 10:42:08 am »

It would help to know what was in the MKVs that are problematic.  MKV = container, not format and MKV files can contain pretty much any format of A/V content.  Use a program like mediainfo and post up exactly what is in the file as far as video and audio streams.
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Re: MKV files and WDTV
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2015, 11:28:19 am »

is this what you want?

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Re: MKV files and WDTV
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2015, 04:26:00 pm »

is this what you want?
Yes, that will help people with WDTV knowledge give you better feedback.  I wish I could help, but I gave my WDTV away years ago to a family member.  I could never get it to work 100% with MC and swapped it out for a spare laptop with a IR receiver.
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daveman

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Re: MKV files and WDTV
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2015, 06:48:10 pm »

WDTV Works great for me except for this mkv issue with large hi def (1080p) files.
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Re: MKV files and WDTV
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2015, 09:56:23 pm »

Wild guess: the problem is your file. These 2 things do not go together:

Format profile                           : High@L4.1
Format settings, ReFrames                : 5 frames

L4.1 stops at 4 reframes and WDTV (although I can only guess your unit is not the newer WDTV) does not support content with higher no. of reframes than 4.
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Re: MKV files and WDTV
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2015, 03:03:04 am »

Wild guess: the problem is your file. These 2 things do not go together:

Format profile                           : High@L4.1
Format settings, ReFrames                : 5 frames

L4.1 stops at 4 reframes and WDTV (although I can only guess your unit is not the newer WDTV) does not support content with higher no. of reframes than 4.

Actually thats not true. The profiles define a size of the "DPB" (Decoded Picture Buffer), not an absolute ref frame limit, and for L4.1 its 32768 macro blocks in size.
One 1920x1080 video frame is 8160 macro blocks in size (one macro block is 16x16), so 4 of those fit into the DPB.

However, his video is only 1920x800, one frame is 6000 macro blocks, so 5 of those fit into the DPB.
Hence, the level is not violated.

Regarding the original problem of not being able to seek, it sounds like the WDTV does not support time-based seeks, and unfortunately MC doesn't support byte-based seeks (yet).
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Re: MKV files and WDTV
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2015, 06:39:54 am »

"unfortunately MC doesn't support byte-based seeks"

Is this something that MC will support?
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Re: MKV files and WDTV
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2015, 06:48:43 am »

Hint  ;D

unfortunately MC doesn't support byte-based seeks (yet).
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daveman

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Re: MKV files and WDTV
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2015, 08:59:43 am »

bspachman posted these settings which work well on a WDTV Live.  I am now able to fast forward and pause mkv files :)

VIDEO:
     Mode: Original
     Format: H264-TS very high bandwidth stream auto fps
Video Advanced:
     Enable: DLNA; DLNAExtra; Enable bitrate Field; Present Caption Resources;
               Present Small Artwork; Present Subtitle Resources
    Empty values for Video MimeType Override & Video DLNA Override
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