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EricB

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Gizmo Support During Trial Period? Other Questions...
« on: March 08, 2015, 04:05:43 pm »

Hi folks!

Obviously new to this community, but happy to be aboard.

Just installed MC20 to my laptop and desktop today in order to play around a bit and see if I want to dive in.

So far, I'm really impressed with what I've seen and I still have a TON to learn. Looking forward to it.

Couple of new dude questions:

1. Is there a way to include Gizmo (or any Android remote app) as part of the trial process? I'd love to see if MC works as close to how I'll have it setup as possible.

2. I've searched and found quite a bit in the forums here, but I'm wondering if I'm on the right track...

 - I'd like to use JRiver MC as my primary interface to access an NAS device and then run it (both audio and video) through an Oppo 105-D. I see others are doing it (with varying levels of success).

 - One thing I don't quite yet understand (please forgive my ignorance - been quite awhile since I've set up any system, audio or video) is how I'll be able to interface via my television, if at all. I'm assuming (always dangerous), I'll have to have some kind of computer attached to the screen in order to use any remote that isn't an Android (or Apple, if I ever go back) interface. Is that right? ATM, I do not plan to buy another PC, so I'll have to either find a workaround, or just use my phone, I think. I'd much like to have the theater view on my television, but also understand that it won't magically appear. :)

3. Any thoughts/advice for a green recruit on using MC or on my proposed setup?

TIA and glad to be here!

-E
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Re: Gizmo Support During Trial Period? Other Questions...
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2015, 04:11:33 pm »

The trial version is not limited in any way. You can just install Gizmo from the Android Play Store, and use it.
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Re: Gizmo Support During Trial Period? Other Questions...
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2015, 04:16:34 pm »

Beat me to it, Hendrik.

As for the second part of question 2, the best way to use MC for video is to have an output from a PC that is running MC attached to a TV (sometimes via an AVR) with HDMI. If your PC is in another room, various solutions exist to get the video to the TV. They vary in cost and whether you are ok running wires from one room to another or not.
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Re: Gizmo Support During Trial Period? Other Questions...
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2015, 04:22:24 pm »

i bought a few chromecasts ($35.00 each) and then i use gizmo/eos to send my library to the tv, by doing so you can get around needing a dedicated pc for each tv.
then you just setup your desired gizmo/eos views on the server under tools, options, media network, advanced.

Note... the setup i mention above will not be the same as theaterview ( it would be the same interface as you have in gizmo/eos/jremote mac etc.).



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Re: Gizmo Support During Trial Period? Other Questions...
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2015, 04:25:47 pm »

I can't really (mostly due to time available) help you with most of your questions right now, but I wanted to say welcome!  We're generally a pretty friendly bunch around here, and thanks for taking the time to introduce yourself.

- I'd like to use JRiver MC as my primary interface to access an NAS device

MC really excels at this. The Media Network features can allow you to stream your media to mobile devices and to other PCs over both your internal network and to the WAN (over the Internet).  This works spectacularly well with JRemote on iOS, and with copies of MC itself running on a laptop.  I'm not experienced with Gizmo, so you'll need someone else to comment there (and I know this is under active development behind the scenes right now), but it certainly does work.

You can even use the stripped down WebGizmo interface to access your media from any computer or device that has a competent web browser (which is handy if you're at a friends house and just really need to play that one track for some reason).

For media management, I don't think MC can be beat by basically anything out there, including multiple-hundreds-of-thousands-of-dollar "enterprise" digital asset management systems.  Some tips to start from the wiki:
* http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Library
* http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Media_Views
* http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Media_Network
* http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Import

- One thing I don't quite yet understand (please forgive my ignorance - been quite awhile since I've set up any system, audio or video) is how I'll be able to interface via my television, if at all. I'm assuming (always dangerous), I'll have to have some kind of computer attached to the screen in order to use any remote that isn't an Android (or Apple, if I ever go back) interface. Is that right? ATM, I do not plan to buy another PC, so I'll have to either find a workaround, or just use my phone, I think. I'd much like to have the theater view on my television, but also understand that it won't magically appear. :)

Certainly, the best possible scenario is to have a HTPC in your living room, or to run a HDMI from your main computer to the TV (and use a secondary display output from your video card).  Those are really the only ways to get Theater View itself on your TV.  I can say that this works pretty spectacularly if you do it.

If you're interested in the latter, yell and I can make some recommendations (or point to previous posts of my own).

If you're interested in the former, then there are a few ways to handle this.  One low cost option might be to go with something like the Intel Compute Stick when it ships in a month or two.  JRiver also offers the full-supported JRiver Id, which is essentially a MC-computer-in-a-box.  The IDs JRiver ships, however, are Linux based and the Linux version of MC does not support Theater View at this time.  This may come in the future, but if so, it would likely be a "paid" update to MC (such as MC21 or something).  To get Theater View now, you have to be running under Windows.  Of course, since JRiver allows you to use a single Windows license on multiple PCs that you personally own, you wouldn't need to buy another copy of MC to get this (just a Windows license), and you could even use one of the JRiver-shipped hardware devices if you want, or buy your own).

MC does have quite a few other options, though.  It does, as I think you know, have DLNA support in a variety of different ways, which can allow you to push your media across the network to a variety of DLNA devices.  Since I'm a HTPC user and there are others here with more smarts in the DLNA-realm, I'll leave those questions to others.

There's also chromecast support and other cool stuff.  I sometimes use JRemote mirrored to my AppleTV (when away from the HTPC) and this works splendidly.
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Re: Gizmo Support During Trial Period? Other Questions...
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2015, 05:04:58 pm »

The trial version is not limited in any way. You can just install Gizmo from the Android Play Store, and use it.

Ah. Ty. I just realized it wasn't asking me for a license number, but for media server access code. Got that part figured. Appreciate it!

Beat me to it, Hendrik.

As for the second part of question 2, the best way to use MC for video is to have an output from a PC that is running MC attached to a TV (sometimes via an AVR) with HDMI. If your PC is in another room, various solutions exist to get the video to the TV. They vary in cost and whether you are ok running wires from one room to another or not.

Yeah...that's what I figured. Will have to wait for now. I'm moving soon, though, and may end up just giving up and putting my gaming rig in the living room. Downside is that it's noisy as hell. I might try and run cables, but not sure if it's worth it. Ty.

i bought a few chromecasts ($35.00 each) and then i use gizmo/eos to send my library to the tv, by doing so you can get around needing a dedicated pc for each tv.
then you just setup your desired gizmo/eos views on the server under tools, options, media network, advanced.

Note... the setup i mention above will not be the same as theaterview ( it would be the same interface as you have in gizmo/eos/JRemote mac etc.).


Holy smokes! Ok. Now that sounds promising! I'm not a huge hi-fi guy on my video, but I am on audio. So this may work perfectly for anything the kids watch, or if I'm just casually watching. Will save the nice movie stuff/audio for direct connect with NAS running through the DAC/video processing of the Oppo, which should be the best I'll have in the house. I'll read up on it. Thank you!

And thanks for the warm welcome, glynor! Here I am already learning all kinds of cool stuff. I was just able to stream a movie off an external USD HDD connected to my laptop, but watching on my gaming rig in the other room. BEAUTIFUL. Quite a bit easier than I thought it was.

Now I just have to clean up all my sloppy titling/tagging/organization. That's gonna drive me nuts. So amateur if I'm letting friends or family browse the nice interface with stuff like avi2Airplane!01 showing with no cover art.

Back to work (play). :)

And thanks again, y'all! I'll be snoopin' around till later...
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