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Magic_Randy:

--- Quote from: abkowijma on March 24, 2015, 01:44:53 am ---Sorry I did not get back yet (different timezone). Heading to work now and not back until tomorrow. I'll let you know the results tomorrow. Still I don't understand how it can make a difference. After syncing to the SD card I can see that it went wrong. Even if it would work from using the Pono player as interface to the SD card I expect the same to happen. Additionally PMW should also be able to sync straight to an SD card. The advantage is that this goes way quicker!
Anyway I'll give it a try tomorrow and will let you know.

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And maybe it has nothing to do with it.

If John T sees this maybe he can weigh in. He would know if it makes any difference if you sync to a MicroSD in an adapter vs using the Pono Player.

Magic_Randy:
abkowijma,

Please post the device options.

I'm attaching the options for one of my volumes for reference. If I can see your options I may be able to see why you are having a problem.

Randy

abkowijma:

--- Quote from: Magic_Randy on March 24, 2015, 09:31:41 pm ---Please post the device options.

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Hi Randy, thanks for all your help! I have exactly the same settings on my end. I did do further testing, and it appears the problem indeed only occurs when I use my build in SD card reader! If I place the same SD card in my PonoPlayer and connect it through USB then syncing, including removal, works perfectly.

The behavior I have seen through the build in SD card reader of my iMac is
- Listing songs that should remain in the sync list twice, once with the remark On device and another time with the remark Delete on Sync. (see ponoproblem.png)
- Listing songs that should go since not in the playlist anymore one time with the remark On device only (see playlistafterremoval.png and syncofplaylistafterremoval.png).

Magic_Randy:

--- Quote from: abkowijma on March 25, 2015, 08:17:52 am ---Hi Randy, thanks for all your help! I have exactly the same settings on my end. I did do further testing, and it appears the problem indeed only occurs when I use my build in SD card reader! If I place the same SD card in my PonoPlayer and connect it through USB then syncing, including removal, works perfectly.

The behavior I have seen through the build in SD card reader of my iMac is
- Listing songs that should remain in the sync list twice, once with the remark On device and another time with the remark Delete on Sync. (see ponoproblem.png)
- Listing songs that should go since not in the playlist anymore one time with the remark On device only (see playlistafterremoval.png and syncofplaylistafterremoval.png).



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So that explains it.  Before you spend too much more time on this I'd suggest validating that this use case is supported. My guess is that the supported use case is syncing with the pono player, not with a MicroSD card in an adapter.

JohnT would be able to comment if he sees this.

You could also raise a case with Pono Music and ask them as they agree the features with JRiver of what's supported in PMW.


abkowijma:

--- Quote from: Magic_Randy on March 25, 2015, 08:53:01 am ---So that explains it.  Before you spend too much more time on this I'd suggest validating that this use case is supported. My guess is that the supported use case is syncing with the pono player, not with a MicroSD card in an adapter.

JohnT would be able to comment if he sees this.

You could also raise a case with Pono Music and ask them as they agree the features with JRiver of what's supported in PMW.

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Thanks. I left a comment in the topic announcing the 20.0.83 as well. Imho it's a bug, if PMW offers syncing to internal SD card readers it should not inverse the logic (removing files that should stay and keep files that should go). Since the PonoPlayer only supports USB2 and an internal card reader supports USB3 (depending on your hardware) there is a strong argument in using an internal SD card reader above the PonoPlayer.

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