Topic: CD ripping/playback problems in recent builds (Read 6718 times)

JohnT · « **on:** March 28, 2003, 03:59:15 am »

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Ripping Still Doesn't work. I haven't been able to rip since about .129. HOw are things going on the new drive access layer and when will I get to start ripping again? Actually, I can rip from my laptop, but not from my main music server. Details of my (non-ripping) server machine are below. Any work-arounds?

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I cannot access my disc drives in this build either. All the same errors as before.
MC correctly shows the cd in 'My Computer' and 'cd,dvd,handhelds' in the tree, just can't actually do anything with the files. I've tried everything I can think of to get this working, and failed.
[Q] Would the fact that my plexwriter is running PI/0 mode and the DVD in DMA mode2 have any bearing on this? (plextor master, DVD slave) The plextor doesn't officially support DMA, but there is a "jumper hack" that can be used to force the issue.

Please send me an email and I'll send you a diagnostic version of the ripper control that may assist in debugging.

Thanks,
John T.
johnt @ jriver.com (remove the spaces)

Marko · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2003, 09:39:39 am »

mail sent. thanks.

Marko · « **Reply #2 on:** March 28, 2003, 09:46:22 pm »

Well, I just installed .137 and the problem is still there:(

Here's a little bit of wierdness for ya though...
I took the tick out of "use digital playback"....
Double clicked on one of the cda tracks listed in playing now, and it played, no visualisation, obviously, but here's the wierd bit......

MC is closed atm, but the CD is still playing!!!!!!!!!!!

Cmagic · « **Reply #3 on:** March 29, 2003, 01:30:45 am »

Hi John,

same problem here since I upgraded from 9.0123 to 9.0137. Can't use CD drives for playback or ripping

An email is on its way.

Christian

JohnT · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2003, 06:52:44 am »

A couple more posts moved from the bug thread for 9.0.137:

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same bug as Cmagic...

"problem with 9.0137 so far :
- Can't use CD playback and ripping (gave details to JohnT) "

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I still cant rip or play cd's

Please send me an email and I'll send you a diagnostic version of the ripper control that may assist in debugging.

Thanks,
John T.
johnt @ jriver.com (remove the spaces)

WolfWalker · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2003, 09:29:17 am »

my email has been sent also

JohnT · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2003, 10:21:09 am »

I may have found the fix, but I'm not sure. I have emailed a new cdripper file to all of you that emailed me. Please let me know if it helps. It will also be in the next build.

Thanks!

Cmagic · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2003, 10:44:36 am »

Hi John,

Thanks for the quick reply.

Tried the new cdripper and was able to rip

but there is a strange behaviour :
When ripping the "status: initializing" phase takes a very unusual long time, someting like 30 secs before actual ripping starts.

Note that does not solve the cd playback problem.

If you need any more info please tell me.

Christian

Listening to: 'Down In The Hole' from 'Emotional Rescue ' by 'The Rolling Stones' on Media Center 9.0

JohnT · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2003, 11:28:30 am »

Cmagic-

Is your drive SCSI? I find that my scsi drive takes about 3 to 5 seconds to initialize, whereas my IDE drives take about 1 second. 30 seconds is definitely bad. I'll look to see where the bottleneck might be and send you a ripper control with diagnostics. Does it take 30 seconds every time?

I'll get CD playback updated for the next build.

Cmagic · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2003, 12:04:43 pm »

Well no, my drive is IDE.

Listening to: 'Acid' from 'Hard Hands' by 'Ray Barretto' on Media Center 9.0

Marko · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2003, 12:21:38 pm »

Confirmed. The e-mailed .ocx is ripping OK here too. After reading your post, Cmagic, I nipped back and checked mine. I've got one drive set to large buffer and one to digital secure and "initialisation" takes btween 3 or 4 seconds for each. Both on the same ide channel, using MC's internal mp3 encoder.

Nice work there John. Thank you.

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Listening to: 'Positively 4th Street' from 'Home' by 'Simply Red' on Media Center 9.0

WolfWalker · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2003, 12:38:55 pm »

John the first file did not work the second did but cd playback still does not work.

Media Center Registered 9.0.138 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1465 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 251 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929)wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0001) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0001)

Ripping / Drive D: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive E: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Digital playback: Yes / Use YADB: Yes / Get cover art: No / Calc replay gain: Yes / Copy volume: 32767
Eject after ripping: No / Play sound after ripping: No

Burning / Drive E: SONY CD-RW CRX195E1 Addr: 2:1:0 Speed:40 MaxSpeed:40 Use MJ Engine:Yes
Test mode: No / Eject after writing: Yes / Direct decoding: Yes / Write CD-Text: Yes
Use playback settings: No / Normalization: None

Cmagic · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2003, 12:43:47 pm »

a little update,

I tried to rip with my other drive ( a Sony burner) and it went ok, itinializing took 1 sec.
The other one (DVD) still has a long intializing time when ripping. Both drives are on the same IDE cable and are set for 'Digital large buffer' at Max speed.
The master (port0) is my DVD drive (long init), the slave (port1) is the burner (rips ok).

system details :
Media Center Registered 9.0.138 -- C:\Program Files\J River\MediaCenter\

Microsoft Windows XP Workstation 5.1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1199 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 785 MB, Free - 565 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2600.0000 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpclient.010817-1148) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2600.0000 (xpclient.010817-1148)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2600.0000 (xpclient.010817-1148) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping / Drive X: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive Y: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Digital playback: Yes / Use YADB: Yes / Get cover art: No / Calc replay gain: Yes / Copy volume: 32767
Eject after ripping: No / Play sound after ripping: Yes Soundfile: C:\WINDOWS\Media\tada.wav

Burning / Drive Y: SONY CD-RW CRX195E4 Addr: 2:1:0 Speed:8 MaxSpeed:40 Use MJ Engine:Yes
Test mode: No / Eject after writing: Yes / Direct decoding: No / Write CD-Text: Yes
Use playback settings: No / Normalization: None

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Listening to: 'Rocks Off' from 'Exile On Main Street' by 'Rolling Stones' on Media Center 9.0

Marko · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2003, 10:20:56 pm »

Sorry John, it appears to broken again.

Well, just a little bit. I tried playing/ripping an enhanced cd (Dido's 'No Angel'). MC correctly identifies the audio tracks; right click the disc in the tree and select update from database and MC flickers once, very very fast, and the only visible change is "Folder" column inserted to the left of the sequence column.
Trying to play one of cda files gives the "hang with buffering" bug, and trying to rip the cd gives the "failed to extract digital audio. Try next track?" error.

For standard cd's though, there appears to be no problems. Thanks for that.
Might be just me, but it seems like MC is spinning the drive faster with this build? mp3 ripping speeds are up which is nice, but what's not so nice is that I can hear it spinning and it's spoiling any music it's playing. I'm certain I've never noticed this before, and I've not made any system changes, except for losing a HD, so before I start digging for more clues, is this down to changes in MC?

Cmagic · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2003, 03:10:59 am »

Hi John,

Just tried MC9.0139 (with new cdripper) on my laptop and I'm not able to playback / rip CD. Will try later to send you a log file with cdripper.ocx you sent me.

CDROM/Burner is drive E:

Also note that the burner is not detected (TEAC CD-W224E). Laptop is a Dell Latitude C840.

Have a nice day,

Christian

System details (laptop)
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Media Center Registered 9.0.139 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
Intel Pentium 4 1192 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 523 MB, Free - 261 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929) / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping / Drive E: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:IDE Read speed:Max
Digital playback: Yes / Use YADB: Yes / Get cover art: No / Calc replay gain: Yes / Copy volume: 32767
Eject after ripping: No / Play sound after ripping: No

Burning / No burners found.
Test mode: No / Eject after writing: Yes / Direct decoding: Yes / Write CD-Text: No
Use playback settings: No / Normalization: None

JohnT · « **Reply #15 on:** April 01, 2003, 04:36:39 am »

Cmagic-
You don't need to reload the cdripper file I sent you via email, build 139 has the same one. Logging is probably still enabled unless you edited the registry setting. Just try doing a rip, then exit MC and send me the cdripper.log file (check the date to see if it's current).

Thanks!

JohnT · « **Reply #16 on:** April 01, 2003, 07:54:38 am »

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John the first file did not work the second did but cd playback still does not work.

Does build 9.0.139 fix the playback problem?

JohnT · « **Reply #17 on:** April 01, 2003, 07:56:44 am »

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Sorry John, it appears to broken again.

Well, just a little bit. I tried playing/ripping an enhanced cd (Dido's 'No Angel'). MC correctly identifies the audio tracks; right click the disc in the tree and select update from database and MC flickers once, very very fast, and the only visible change is "Folder" column inserted to the left of the sequence column.
Trying to play one of cda files gives the "hang with buffering" bug, and trying to rip the cd gives the "failed to extract digital audio. Try next track?" error.

For standard cd's though, there appears to be no problems. Thanks for that.
Might be just me, but it seems like MC is spinning the drive faster with this build? mp3 ripping speeds are up which is nice, but what's not so nice is that I can hear it spinning and it's spoiling any music it's playing. I'm certain I've never noticed this before, and I've not made any system changes, except for losing a HD, so before I start digging for more clues, is this down to changes in MC?

Does it do the same thing with other enhanced CD's? Just want to rule out a damaged Dido CD causing the problem.

JohnT · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2003, 07:58:17 am »

If "wickamo" is reading this thread, please let us know if the new build (9.0.139 or greater) fixed the problem you were having with CD ripping/playback.

Thanks!

Marko · « **Reply #19 on:** April 02, 2003, 09:01:46 am »

Hi John. Apologies for the lag, been wrestling with lost HD's this week. Not a nice experience.

Here's the latest....
The Dido cd in question has no visible .cda files when viewed from My Computer externally, though MC shows the 12 tracks. Windows media player 8.0 can both play and rip the tracks, (MC can play the ripped tracks) and the cd works as it should in the HiFi.

When viewed in windows explorer, the file & folder list looks like so...

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Folder Q:\
Files info: Size
(Dirs in bold)

CDPLUS
INFO.CDP 2 K
SUB_INFO.EN 548

PICTURES
JACKET01.00A 16.12 K
JACKET01.00J 2.72 K
JACKET01.00L 32.20 K
JACKET01.00P 6.93 K

QT4
QT4.EXE 488.81 K
QUICKTIM.INI 148
QUICKTIM.QDA 7.89 MB

RESOURCE
HERE.MOV 56.06 MB
THANKYOU.MOV 47.51 MB

XTRAS
BUDAPI.X16 102.02 K
BUDAPI.X32 262 K
BUDAPI16.DLL 90.75 K
BUDAPI32.DLL 109.50 K
FLASHASS.X32 283.50 K
MASTRAPP.X32 123.50 K
QT3ASSET.X32 103.50 K

Root
AUTORUN.INF 51
GALLERY.DXR 1.97 MB
INTRO2.DXR 454.95 K
MAIN.DXR 2.29 MB
MSVCRT.DLL 274 K
QUIT.DXR 0.96 MB
RUN.EXE 1.80 MB
RUN2.EXE 2.21 MB

Note, as far as explorer is concerned, no .cda files.
Does any of that make any sense to you john?
Windows media player also correctly retrieved album, artist track info and even composer info for this cd, whereas MC seems unable to get the lookup process started.

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Media Center Registered 9.0.140 -- C:\Program Files\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows XP Workstation 5.1 Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
AMD Athlon 1611 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 1048 MB, Free - 628 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.82 (xpsp1.020828-1920) / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Shell32.dll: 6.00.2800.1145 (xpsp2.021108-1929)wnaspi32.dll: 4.71 (0001) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-2002 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: 4.71 (0001)

Ripping / Drive M: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive Q: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive R: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Digital playback: Yes / Use YADB: Yes / Get cover art: Yes / Calc replay gain: Yes / Copy volume: 32767
Eject after ripping: No / Play sound after ripping: No

Burning / Drive R: PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1610A Addr: 1:0:0 Speed:16 MaxSpeed:16 Use MJ Engine:Yes
Test mode: No / Eject after writing: Yes / Direct decoding: Yes / Write CD-Text: No
Use playback settings: No / Normalization: None

JohnT · « **Reply #20 on:** April 02, 2003, 09:17:34 am »

Not sure what's going on, but I have the Dido CD at home so I'll try it out.

Marko · « **Reply #21 on:** April 02, 2003, 10:54:00 am »

Borrowed a DJ Sammy cd single off one of the kids and it behaves the same way.

When viewed in windows explorer, no cda, just autorun.inf, djsammy.exe and video.mpg on the root, no other folders.

xen-uno · « **Reply #22 on:** April 02, 2003, 11:40:48 am »

John,

Seeing similar problem here...

MC burns fine on Yamaha F1 Ext USB...however, it will not RIP nor play Audio CD's (playback on data CD's is fine, though) from it. I get the error "Read track failed. Failed to......". If a track is selected to play it "stops" immediately. If I insist then status bar reads "bufffering", but nothing happens. I had turned off "enable Digital CD playback...." on the W2k system (under drive properties), but it had no effect on problem. MC is set for Digital playback (either drive).

Here's my specs:

Media Center Registered 9.0.140 -- d:\MediaCenter\

Microsoft Windows 2000 Workstation 5.0 Service Pack 3 (Build 2195)
Intel Pentium III 698 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 392 MB, Free - 227 MB

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.81 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 5.00.3502.6144 / wnaspi32.dll: Internal ASPI Layer

Ripping / Drive Y: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive Z: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Digital playback: Yes / Use YADB: Yes / Get cover art: No / Calc replay gain: No / Copy volume: 32767
Eject after ripping: No / Play sound after ripping: Yes Soundfile: S:\mp3\RaceRun.wav

Burning / Drive Z: YAMAHA CRW-F1E Addr: 1:0:0 Speed:40 MaxSpeed:44 Use MJ Engine:Yes
Test mode: No / Eject after writing: Yes / Direct decoding: No / Write CD-Text: Yes
Use playback settings: No / Normalization: None

10^-27

JohnT · « **Reply #23 on:** April 02, 2003, 12:19:20 pm »

There is logging capability in MC for the ripping process if you set a particular registry entry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JRiver\Media Jukebox\CD Reader\Logger

Change the value from zero (0) to one (1). Then restart MC and try to rip a track. Then exit MC and email me the log file which will be in the MC directory and will be called "cdripper.log".
This may help narrow down where the problem lies.

johnt @ jriver.com (remove the spaces)

Thanks!

Marko · « **Reply #24 on:** April 03, 2003, 10:47:57 am »

How did your test go John?

Marko · « **Reply #25 on:** April 08, 2003, 01:07:19 am »

Still can't get this done using MC v.144

I ripped to non-drm .wma's using wmp 8 (xp-sp1 default). MC can play these files (referring to wma bug mentioned by someone else around here somewhere).

I used MC to convert these to "insane" .mpc's and all went well.

Not a showstopper as I don't have many of these cd's, still, would be nice if it worked though.

Listening to: 'Hunter' from 'No Angel' by 'Dido' on Media Center 9.0

Marko · « **Reply #26 on:** October 02, 2003, 11:18:11 am »

Well, waddaya know.....

This is working a treat now:D

Thanks.

JohnT · « **Reply #27 on:** October 03, 2003, 08:11:43 am »

Thanks for letting us know!

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