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[newHAPPYuser2015]

Sometimes a newly imported song gets assigned 1 star rating

[Hendrik]

Sometimes a newly imported song gets assigned 1 star rating

The song may have contained a rating metadata before MC gets to it, then MC will read and import that data.

[newHAPPYuser2015]

The song may have contained a rating metadata before MC gets to it, then MC will read and import that data.

First I downloaded the song from the cloud to iTunes library. It didn't have a rating there. Then I copied the file to JMC music folder and it got assigned 1 star rating.

I also remembered that when I first setup JMC library a bunch of songs got assigned 1 star rating as well. Anyway, iTunes stores its' ratings in XML file(or iTunes database file? doesn't matter) as far as I know and doesn't write rating data to a file.

[JimH]

I think Hendrik is correct on this.

[newHAPPYuser2015]

I think Hendrik is correct on this.

Please explain. How can a song have a rating if I never rated it?

[glynor]

Please explain. How can a song have a rating if I never rated it?

I've seen them come from Amazon's MP3 store with Ratings in the ID3 tags, though usually the source is... Less than legitimate.  MC reads ratings in a variety of tagging formats, however, not just those used by iTunes (which does not use the "standard" ID3 Rating field for ratings tags -- the standard is something of a mess).

So, it is possible that file was tagged with a Rating in another application (not iTunes, in a format iTunes doesn't use) and those ratings are coming through.  iTunes wouldn't show them because it doesn't read them, but a full-fledged tagging application like MP3Tag would almost certainly.

If you don't ever want it to happen, add a Tag On Import rule to always clear the [Rating] field.

[Arindelle]

Please explain. How can a song have a rating if I never rated it?

because someone else rated it that way ... most metadata you get from the web is from users you know (thats why its often bad or just plain wrong)

[newHAPPYuser2015]

All the songs that got rated 1 star came from iTunes store. Well, if not all then the absolute majority for sure. And the last one came from iTunes store - there is no questioning that.

So how could a song coming straight from iTunes store have gotten tagged in another application?

[glynor]

Dunno.  I suppose it is possible that they got uploaded to the iTunes store that way?  Like I said, I have absolutely seen this with the Amazon MP3 store.  Usually they're rated 5-stars (sneaky little buggers) and not 1-star, but you know, people are bad at their jobs sometimes.

Unless you have a tag on import rule going crazy, or are doing online metadata lookup after the fact for the files (MC doesn't do this automatically for audio files you import) then I dunno.

Post an example file.

[newHAPPYuser2015]

Post an example file.

How do I do this? Send an email somewhere or attach to a post?

Unless you have a tag on import rule going crazy, or are doing online metadata lookup after the fact for the files (MC doesn't do this automatically for audio files you import) then I dunno.

Where is this setting located?

[glynor]

The files will be too big to attach directly to a post.  I'd use WikiSend or Dropbox or whatever to make a link to it.

Where is this setting located?

It isn't a setting, it is a tool.  Like I said, it doesn't do it automatically.  You can select files and right-click > Library Tools > Lookup Track Info from Online Database if you want, and it'll pull in additional metadata from the database of other files MC users have previously submitted (based on the file fingerprint).  I'd assume that it strips out Rating, since that's pretty inherently personal, but I don't really know for sure.

In any case, you'd have had to do it manually.

[glynor]

I just tested the Track Lookup on a bunch of files and none of them got ratings, so I suspect I was right and this is (properly) stripped out.

The Ratings are almost certainly somehow embedded in the ID3 tags.  That or you previously imported them into MC, added ratings (accidentally perhaps), removed them and then re-imported them.

[dmitry2015]

Here is a link to the file
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pdqcgt5bje8hauh/01%20The%20Baddest%20Man%20Alive%20%28feat.%20RZA%29.m4a?dl=0

[Matt]

That song is tagged with "Rating: 1".

[glynor]

As I mentioned above, if this is driving you crazy, you can easily override any existing [Rating] tag using Tag On Import rules. You actually inspired me to finally write up a wiki article for this useful feature, and I included this particular usage in the Useful Examples section at the bottom. Check it out:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Tag_on_Import

[Arindelle]

As I mentioned above, if this is driving you crazy, you can easily override any existing [Rating] tag using Tag On Import rules. You actually inspired me to finally write up a wiki article for this useful feature, and I included this particular usage in the Useful Examples section at the bottom. Check it out:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Tag_on_Import

nice job Glynor!!

[JimH]

As I mentioned above, if this is driving you crazy, you can easily override any existing [Rating] tag using Tag On Import rules. You actually inspired me to finally write up a wiki article for this useful feature, and I included this particular usage in the Useful Examples section at the bottom. Check it out:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Tag_on_Import

Thanks for doing that, glynor.

[William-NM]

Great article, Glynor. By the authority not vested in me, I award you two Gold Stars and a feature request of your choice. (hey, I didn't say they'd IMPLEMENT it...)

ABBA? Really?? I had Matt pegged as a Sinatra kind of guy. Ya' just never know, do ya??