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blgentry:

--- Quote from: AlexS on August 11, 2015, 08:56:12 pm ---As you well know I haven't said anything of the sort. Please supply a quote. Otherwise please stop peddling fiction.

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You seem to think that JRiver "would benefit from changes".  I'm not trying to start anything or put any words in your mouth. On second thought, I probably should have kept my opinion to myself.  I'll stop commenting in this thread now.

Brian.

AlexS:

--- Quote from: blgentry on August 11, 2015, 09:09:20 pm ---You seem to think that JRiver "would benefit from changes".

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That's a completely different statement than what you wrote earlier. The above statement is probably correct, the below statement is a work of fiction.


--- Quote from: blgentry on August 11, 2015, 06:10:45 pm ---It seems like Alex is reporting buggy behavior and believes that certification will fix those bugs.  That's how I read what's going on.  <shrug>
Brian.

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--- Quote from: blgentry on August 11, 2015, 09:09:20 pm ---On second thought, I probably should have kept my opinion to myself.  I'll stop commenting in this thread now.

Brian.

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If we could all have a real discussion about what exactly is/isn't of benefit here when referring to points in the URL I quoted above (i.e. the actual certification itself, rather than preconceptions), rather than attempt to kettle it in before it even gets a chance, we could all have quite an interesting discussion in this thread.

It seems the default position is to be dismissive here which I find a little worrying to be honest.

glynor:
The primary benefits of the Windows certification program, like the one for Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 before it, are inclusion in Microsoft marketing materials and the ability to submit your application to the Microsoft Store (which JRiver is unlikely to do for other reasons).

Going through this certification process involves, primarily a ton of paperwork, and a non-trivial amount of cost (because time is money).

Alex, the information you're linking to is primarily the process and requirements for certification, not the benefits to the developers, which Microsoft loosely enumerates here (though it seems they haven't bothered to make a new page for the Windows 10 certification process yet):
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/hh968450.aspx

As I said before, it is primarily a marketing scheme. In some cases, it might be worthwhile for applications to go through the process, especially if they intend to target new functionality primarily targeted at Windows 10 (such as making a Universal application). Or, perhaps, if they have enterprise customers that require it. This doesn't really apply to Media Center (which is cross-platform focused), and also doesn't apply very much to an application that has existed on the platform for two decades.

In any case, you asked the question, and got an answer from one of the lead developers (Hendrik). JRiver does not believe that certification through Microsoft provides substantial developer-facing benefits to outweigh the substantial resource commitment that it would require. Thanks for your thoughts, but I'm going to lock this now.

Hendrik:
AlexS, all you did was post a few pointless links which include literally hundreds of points, of which we probably fullfill 90% already, if not more. You did not once mention a specific point that MC is lacking (and we are DPI aware since MC20).

If you think any particular part of MC needs improvement, please request that specifically in the Feature Request thread, but don't hide behind some certification.
We're not going to spent a lot of time on this nonsense certification just for the sake of it.

We don't need a certificate to make MC better, so please focus on actual issues, if you have any, instead of throwing some blanket list around.

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