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flac.rules:

--- Quote from: Denti on July 21, 2015, 05:37:09 pm ---Really? Last time I tried these were kicked to the end of the alphabet. Can you make sure all these are included:

à   
á   
â   
ä   
å   
À     
Á   
   
à  
Å
ç   
Ç   
ê   
é   
ë     
è   
Ê   
Ë     
É   
È   
ï   
í   
î   
ì     
Í   
Ì   
Π  
Ï     
ñ   
Ñ   
š   
Š   
ú   
ü   
û   
ù   
Ù   
Ú   
Ü 
Û   
ÿ   
Ÿ   
ý   
Ý   
ž   
Ž   

plus:

æ     
Æ     

equal = ae and AE

œ   
Œ   

equal = oe or OE

and (this would be great):

ß = ss

This letter is very common in German names and should be alphabetized as a "ss"

(Of course technically umlauted vowels should be alphabetized "ae" "oe" etc.. but I'm not pushing my luck)

--- End quote ---

Should all those the be included? æ, ø and å are at the end of the alphabet in the countries using those letters

Sesam:

--- Quote from: Elvis133 on July 22, 2015, 01:54:59 am ---Should all those the be included? æ, ø and å are at the end of the alphabet in the countries using those letters

--- End quote ---

I don't think they should, even if some bands use these characters for purely stylistic purposes. I know åäö is at the very end of the alphabet in at least Sweden and Finland (those are not used to replace A or O, they are completely different characters).

Denti:

--- Quote from: Matt on July 21, 2015, 07:57:38 am ---Sorting should already ignore those.

The equality is this:
 ò
 ó
 ô
 ö
 ø
All convert to o.

--- End quote ---

I'd still like to know if this is really supposed to work this way. For me, these letters sort one place AFTER o, but before p. They do not convert to "o." Should they?

Matt:

--- Quote from: Denti on July 21, 2015, 05:37:09 pm ---Really? Last time I tried these were kicked to the end of the alphabet. Can you make sure all these are included:

à   
á   
â   
ä   
å   
À     
Á   
   
à  
Å
ç   
Ç   
ê   
é   
ë     
è   
Ê   
Ë     
É   
È   
ï   
í   
î   
ì     
Í   
Ì   
Π  
Ï     
ñ   
Ñ   
š   
Š   
ú   
ü   
û   
ù   
Ù   
Ú   
Ü 
Û   
ÿ   
Ÿ   
ý   
Ý   
ž   
Ž   

--- End quote ---

Thanks for the list.

In the coming builds of MC21:
Changed: Added a few more diacriticals to the list of things for ignoring during sorting.

There were only a couple on your list that weren't already there, but it's nice to flesh it out completely.

Denti:

--- Quote from: Matt on July 30, 2015, 10:17:35 am ---Thanks for the list.

In the coming builds of MC21:
Changed: Added a few more diacriticals to the list of things for ignoring during sorting.

There were only a couple on your list that weren't already there, but it's nice to flesh it out completely.

--- End quote ---

Can you clarify if these are supposed to be sorted as if there were no diacritical, or as one letter after the non-diacritical letter?

Example: currently MC20 sorts

Ceclia Bartoli
Béla Bartók

but of course it should be the other way around, because k comes before l. The ó is being sorted immediately after o, instead of being sorted *as* o.

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