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Q on Volume Levelling & Adaptive Volume (Albums vs Mix "Tapes")

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jmone:
I'm not clear where we ended up on this and what the recommended settings are.  I have the usual combinations of both:
Type 1 Traditional Albums - eg Std CD's where all the tracks are from one the Album and are tagged as "Artist/Album"
Type 2 "Mix" Tapes - eg Top 40 Compilations where the tracks are from different sources and are tagged as (Multiple Artists)

I'd like to have Volume Levelling & Adaptive Volume work so that:
Type 1 Traditional Albums - inter track volume differences are preserved
Type 2 "Mix" Tapes - all tracks are played at the same level

This needs to be for both Audio and Music Video Clips.

I saw some discussions from last year that if the Type 2 "Mix" Tapes were tagged as (Multiple Atrists) or Varions Artists then the tracks would be leveled else it would be done on a per album basis.  If that is true great, but I tend to find on my Type 2 "Mix" Tapes I'm still reaching for the Vol Control to balance SPL.

Thanks
Nathan

jmone:
Bump - any thoughts (or was the above Gibberish?)

Arindelle:
if I'm following you Nathan, I thought that would be part of a zone switch tweek .. why dsp setting are by zone in audio options??. Doesn't seem to be explained anywhere though .. maybe I missed something in the summer but not sure anything has changed yet.

You aren't talking about the mix tape version automatically leveling any cd with Multiple or Various Artists in the Album Artist tag?? That would squash the dynamics on any compilation or soundtrack that was already mastered for different artists' tracks, wouldn't it?

On a smartlist from different albums or creating your own "Mixtape album" I want want you want  but I like the idea of keeping a choice to keep quieter songs quieter (why the two modes I thought). I was hoping for a change to zoneswitch so it could switch back and forth without stopping playback based on whether or not the current playing now has non-sequential tracks in it. You can sort of do this now, but without having different choices like only Volume Levelling or only VL+Adaptive. One to level everything, one to more or less keep the dynamics.

I end up having a lot of playlists with more than -20db corrections in levelling ... this is ok I guess, but I end up cranking up the volume and then going back to my "normal playing zone ... +20db can be a lot for my tweeters and/or neighbors, if you forget to turn things down :D.  I't would be cool if the JR pre-amp eq could adjust automatically, and then reset itself.  Can't see how to do that via the eq manually as you might have a -5db average or a -20db;  less of course if you use adaptive mode.

blgentry:
Let's see if I understand what's supposed to happen with Volume Leveling enabled:

1.  Add several albums to Playing Now and shuffle them.  When played, all tracks should have Volume Leveling applied equally with no consideration of albums, as they are all shuffled.
2.  Add a full album, in order to this same mixed list of songs.  Now all of the original tracks from #1 will play Volume Leveled per song as before.  But when it gets to the new Album that is sequentially listed, Volume Leveling should be applied across the album as a whole, preserving track to track volume level differences.  So just one Volume Level adjustment applied to all of the tracks in that Album.
3.  Go back to #1.  Add 2 tracks from an album.  Say tracks 4 and 5 (sequential tracks).  When it gets to these tracks 4 and 5 how are they leveled?  Individually, or as a whole album?  I.E., one volume leveling for each track, or one volume leveling for the pair of tracks?

If #3 turns out to do volume leveling just like #1 (one per song), then simply shuffling your "mix tape" album should level the songs individually.

I have no idea what the answer is, but I've wondered how MC deals with #2 and #3 for a while now.  I think I'm right about #2, but I'm not totally sure.

Brian.

Hendrik:
All 3 options would appear to be correct. It'll use album mode for any consecutive list of tracks from the same [Album] and [Album Artist (auto)] - they don't need to be sequential tracks either, just from the same Album (so instead of 4 and 5, it could be 3 and 7)

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