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Best practices to display multiple copies of same album
Vocalpoint:
--- Quote from: jaxtherogue on August 29, 2015, 09:31:57 am ---The discog release number is always there. Until discogs goes defunct anyway; the reliance on Discogs is the lynch-pin for this.
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But what if a release simply does not exist in Discogs. I have a number of discs that cannot be found....?
VP
jaxtherogue:
--- Quote from: Vocalpoint on August 29, 2015, 09:42:55 am ---But what if a release simply does not exist in Discogs. I have a number of discs that cannot be found....?
VP
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Then you create them yourself. It takes some learning the rules, but it's a crowdsourced database and relies on user participation. I have entered many vinyl releases myself. This will get you started:
http://www.discogs.com/help/doc/contributing
cinjin:
What about using musicbrainz tagger along with discogs. What I mean is musicbrainz has MBID tags that are specific as in
Oasis Definitely Maybe album has a MB Release Group ID tag 451dca98-c118-32e1-9244-c47ca9c3c0f9
All Definitely Maybe releases have that unique ID in the tag MB Release Group ID
Definitely Maybe 1994 UK Creation CD has a MB Album ID 9822581d-98bf-3f97-a94c-4b1350d090aa
Definitely Maybe 2014 US Big Brother LP has a MB Album ID bdf9eda5-7aae-4c36-93f5-b47ff1cbf5ab
This way all Definitely Maybe release have the same MB Release Group ID but each version has its own MB Album ID
I've been using musicbrainz picard tagger and it does a pretty complete job of tagging and I made fields in jriver
MB Release Group ID
MB Album ID
MB Recordings ID Individual tracks
MB Works ID The same idea as release group but for tracks. Great for tagging and grouping cover versions of a song.
Check out musicbrainz and their free tagger picard, I think it would help with your situation.
Arindelle:
I think the only unique identifier I've found is the UPC number ... if you can get it ... otherwise you need the correct Label + their catalog number. AllMusic is pretty good with this and can help localize a lot (but certainly not all) cd and digital releases. The porblem with this is Allmusic does not show the tracks for these releases and its often diiferent than what they consider the "primary" recoring. It not good for vinyl though.
Until everything gets some standard so rippers can pull something like a UPC number I can't see how you can assure that the label and catalogue number that is downloaded is going to be correct ...
I have more than 7000 cds, but I have only kept 500 of them and have given most away and donated the rest to my local library ... for me to go backwards and find this information now is pretty well a waste of time. :'( wish I new what I know now when I started my digital collection
Music Brainz is ok, but I believe its also a contributor site so ther a bunch of errors in it. Also their unique ID is only unique for their database. I'm reluctant to rely on it and I think their tagger is a bit unwieldy for most at least.
So I'm stuck with the Album field for now ... if I had access to all of my old cds, or if I was just starting out, I'd do what Ferday is suggesting .. I'd create a custom field to merge (whats the word concatenate?) Label (guess JRiver calls this publisher right?)+Catalog number. That could be then used as a unique ID
stricko:
hi all
i've been waiting a while for a good thread on this topic to open up. i'm not quite as obsessive about catalog numbers as some of you seem to be, but i needed a way to handle multiple copies of the same material, AND to logically divide material which has been grouped together for a physical release.
i've adopted pretty much the same approach as many of you, with custom fields to carry additional data, and if/else expressions to use the data if present. some of the custom fields are populated automatically on import, such as hi-res based on bit depth and rate, and surround based on channels.
oh, i forgot to mention, i only really use mc in theater mode, so everything is geared around that.
the "logical" split thing is used to to separate out bonus material, live tracks etc. also works across multiple physical discs, say for a live album set where disc 1 may contain concert 1, plus part of concert 2 etc.
i don't really have hard and fast rules, but this approach allows lots of flexibility.
so for example, for ziggy stardust, i might have....
original album
rhino re-issue bonus tracks
hi-res re-issue
5.1 surround
etc
all would have the same <album> tag, but all except the original would have a populated <version> custom field
but my thinking has now moved on to thinking about "single" data, alongside the album stuff, any thoughts?
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