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Best practices to display multiple copies of same album
ferday:
i have a "system" which is constantly in flux, but here goes (i refuse to change the [album] name)
i use [date], [date (release)], [country], and a few customs [album source], [album information]
in RMC i have a preset that does some stuff to name folders on disc, (forgive me, i have 11 versions of Nirvana Nevermind)
Nevermind-1991-FLAC-CD-USA
Nevermind-1991-FLAC-Vinyl
Nevermind-1991-FLAC-CD-JAPAN
Nevermind-RM 1996-1991-FLAC-CD
Nevermind-RM 2011-FLAC-HD
so [album], if date release is empty or equal to date, then date, else RM-date release-date, file type, album source (then country if i need it to differentiate further)
[album source] is a manual check field for CD, HD (i.e. anything over 16/44), Vinyl, Bandcamp, Itunes...etc. pretty obvious
i also have an [album quality] field which is calculated from variables (lossy bitrate) but i'm phasing it out as i weed my lossy
then i put the album info into [album information], i try for a template, i.e.
remastered 1996 - MoFi gold disc
remastered 2011 - HDTracks
remastered 2011 - DGC 20th anniversary boxset
original 1991 - Japanese release
and finally all of my boxsets (and some "created" boxsets like the new 2014 Led Zep remasters) get a series tag so i can view them as actual boxsets as well
so i can sort on date (release), album information, album source, country...etc. the views are pretty flexible
i'm currently working on catalog #'s but i've only started ripping with them very recently so i have a long haul in front of me
i won't claim to have the best system but it's working good for me and i can view things very quickly and easily and pick what i want, it looks great on disc with a folder structure and the [album] name stays what it should be
thank goodness for MC, if it can satisfy my OCD and penchant for completist collecting it can work for anyone. hope this give you some ideas at least...
Vocalpoint:
--- Quote from: ferday on August 27, 2015, 11:37:38 am ---i have a "system" which is constantly in flux, but here goes (i refuse to change the [album] name)
i use [date], [date (release)], [country], and a few customs [album source], [album information]
in RMC i have a preset that does some stuff to name folders on disc, (forgive me, i have 11 versions of Nirvana Nevermind)
Nevermind-1991-FLAC-CD-USA
Nevermind-1991-FLAC-Vinyl
Nevermind-1991-FLAC-CD-JAPAN
Nevermind-RM 1996-1991-FLAC-CD
Nevermind-RM 2011-FLAC-HD
so [album], if date release is empty or equal to date, then date, else RM-date release-date, file type, album source (then country if i need it to differentiate further)
[album source] is a manual check field for CD, HD (i.e. anything over 16/44), Vinyl, Bandcamp, Itunes...etc. pretty obvious
i also have an [album quality] field which is calculated from variables (lossy bitrate) but i'm phasing it out as i weed my lossy
then i put the album info into [album information], i try for a template, i.e.
remastered 1996 - MoFi gold disc
remastered 2011 - HDTracks
remastered 2011 - DGC 20th anniversary boxset
original 1991 - Japanese release
and finally all of my boxsets (and some "created" boxsets like the new 2014 Led Zep remasters) get a series tag so i can view them as actual boxsets as well
so i can sort on date (release), album information, album source, country...etc. the views are pretty flexible
i'm currently working on catalog #'s but i've only started ripping with them very recently so i have a long haul in front of me
i won't claim to have the best system but it's working good for me and i can view things very quickly and easily and pick what i want, it looks great on disc with a folder structure and the [album] name stays what it should be
thank goodness for MC, if it can satisfy my OCD and penchant for completist collecting it can work for anyone. hope this give you some ideas at least...
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Awesome! Now this is what I am talking about. I really like the idea of using RMC (F6) to create a folder for each "version". Looks to me like I need to expand my custom fields a bit too. I will take this info and start playing around a bit.
How does your "system" play into your views? Have you created a unique Album view that allows you to lean on this custom metadata to correctly display your 11 copies of Nevermind?
VP
ferday:
yes, but it depends on how you like viewing.
i don't use graphic views very often, or theatre view for audio very often
so i'm a pretty strict pane view guy. a basic one would be (top panes) genre-artist-album-album information-country
so i could drill down through rock-nirvana-nevermind, then the album information pane will have 11 choices, or i can now go down into the bottom pane and sort groups how i want them
honestly....because my folder structure is really intense i often browse stuff using a disk location view.
if you're into graphic views you could sort within groups by release info, etc. it's just so flexible!
kstuart:
Described in great depth in the thread in my signature
blgentry:
I've been playing with these concepts today after reading what my man Ferday wrote about using an Album_info tag. I like this idea a lot. I've set up my Albums view to display Album_info below the rest of the information to distinguish the albums from each other.
So I just decided to play with one of the few albums I have two copies of: Fleetwood Mac, Rumours. I have a CD version and a DVD-A version. The DVD-A version, until about 10 minutes ago, had the string "(DVD-A)" at the end of the album title. I just changed the Album tag to simply "Rumours". Then a funny thing happened. The CD copy of Rumours just up and left the building. Gone from Album view all together. I won't bore you with everything I tried (just a few things) before I realized that (DUH) MC now thinks that both Albums are ONE album because they have the same Artist, Album, Album Artist (auto).
If I go to a Panes view and add a column for Album_info, I can distinguish them. But I'm not a big user of Panes. I use them, but not primarily. I'm an Albums view guy.
Is there any hope of doing this and separating the albums other than changing the Album tag to something different? Or the Album Artist? (which I won't do). I think I'm stuck and have to go back to having the album names contain extra information about the release. Which is very disappointing. This seemed like such a cool thing to do. <shrug>
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian.
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