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William-NM:
When I've had this happen, it's usually because there's one or more duplicate tracks hiding somewhere in my collection. Maybe an old partial album or a track in a compilation, etc. Changing the offending files name just a bit may solve the problem. A close look at the Artists & Albums detail view might find the culprit.

The other thing I try is selecting all the tracks and doing a rename of the artist, album, albumartist... sometimes there's some minute difference in one of the fields (but you've likely already tried that).

That can sure get me pulling my hair out!   >:(
William

marko:
If you browse to CD2 or CD3 inside MC, and select all files, and look in the tag window...

Neither Album nor Filename (path) should show [Varies] and all track #'s should be sequential. I know you know that, but have you had a look at what MC is working with from within the library?

As William has said, sometimes, it looks the same, but is not, and looking at the tag window with all relevant files selected is a good way to see if MC agrees with you about them all being the same...

Arindelle:
ok checked this out and Marko is right except that, as mentioned correctly in the Wiki all track # have to be sequential BUT they also have to start with "1".

Going backwards, all the multi-cds I have that "passed" these test were not ripped or tagged correctly (along my system at least). There are a few single disk CDs that are still a mystery, but probably I just missed something.

Long story short, it doesn't matter how many sub-directory levels you have or if you have one root Album Folder or one per CD..... CD1 passes because it is sequential AND it starts with 1 (as long as all tracks have the same albumartist(auto)/same album name. CD2 does not pass because although they are sequential AND the first track starts with one in the folder, the track sequence shown in MC is (1+last-track#ofCD1).

If the must start with 1 rule is not in place, all would "pass the test" for a complete album. I guess I get the logic of this as it has found a few album were the first track is missing, this is more of a rarity for me at least. If a track is missed its not necessariliy track #1 ... some albums have hidden tracks that are purposely out of sequence too.

Wish it wasn't a criterion. I was wondering if these fields (total tracks and total disks) if filled in could be in a way to override this rule (like an either/or rule. I'm not willing to give up the luxury of consolidating the numbers in one large sequence (or using multiple sequences for classical works) just for an admin tool, (for me, the original track numbers are written to the file on rip, not the re-sequenced library ones and I have the track number as part of the file name if I need them - so the metadata is not lost)

so if this isn't possible ... anybody want to give me the expression behind this (leaving out the must start with track#1? I suppose I could add a custom tag and make my own complete rules too, sor of PITA , but not the end of the world

thanks for the input in any case guys

BryanC:

--- Quote from: Arindelle on September 01, 2015, 10:59:48 am ---ok checked this out and Marko is right except that, as mentioned correctly in the Wiki all track # have to be sequential BUT they also have to start with "1".

Going backwards, all the multi-cds I have that "passed" these test were not ripped or tagged correctly (along my system at least). There are a few single disk CDs that are still a mystery, but probably I just missed something.

Long story short, it doesn't matter how many sub-directory levels you have or if you have one root Album Folder or one per CD..... CD1 passes because it is sequential AND it starts with 1 (as long as all tracks have the same albumartist(auto)/same album name. CD2 does not pass because although they are sequential AND the first track starts with one in the folder, the track sequence shown in MC is (1+last-track#ofCD1).

If the must start with 1 rule is not in place, all would "pass the test" for a complete album. I guess I get the logic of this as it has found a few album were the first track is missing, this is more of a rarity for me at least. If a track is missed its not necessariliy track #1 ... some albums have hidden tracks that are purposely out of sequence too.

Wish it wasn't a criterion. I was wondering if these fields (total tracks and total disks) if filled in could be in a way to override this rule (like an either/or rule. I'm not willing to give up the luxury of consolidating the numbers in one large sequence (or using multiple sequences for classical works) just for an admin tool, (for me, the original track numbers are written to the file on rip, not the re-sequenced library ones and I have the track number as part of the file name if I need them - so the metadata is not lost)

so if this isn't possible ... anybody want to give me the expression behind this (leaving out the must start with track#1? I suppose I could add a custom tag and make my own complete rules too, sor of PITA , but not the end of the world

thanks for the input in any case guys

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Is there a reason why you don't want each CD in a box set or multi-CD album to start with track #1? That's generally how the songs are numbered on the discs themselves. I don't see the benefit of doing it any other way.

Arindelle:

--- Quote from: BryanC on September 02, 2015, 10:18:23 am ---Is there a reason why you don't want each CD in a box set or multi-CD album to start with track #1? That's generally how the songs are numbered on the discs themselves. I don't see the benefit of doing it any other way.

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Well good question .... I started doing this for classical music ... as I subdivide the album into works for a number of reasons ... an Opera is nice to have in one sequence for instance as these are often on multiple cds but the Acts don't necessarily start at the begining of a CD. You might be on the fourth track of act 2 on CD3. Or the 3rd movement of a Symphony with track #1 sort of blows too. The info you see in JRemote or Theater view is limited in playing now, too

For pop and jazz this is less important I suppose but if I'm listening to the white album by the beatles I tend to listen to it in order, so I just started sequentially tagging them from 1 to the end, and just got used to it. If I rip everything into one subfolder these would pass too. I do not write the changed track numbers to the files, nor do I mess with the actual file names .. so I can always cross reference to Discogs or Allmusic if I want to after the fact.

Then I started to have a bunch of albums that were really two or more albums re-issued. I wanted to use the original artwork and separate the album via the tags.  Stax has re-released a lot of great soul albums that way, most wer only available on vinyl before ... Then I bought some box set that had all the e.ps and albums (like a Joy Division and My Bloody Valentine set - and I wanted to separate those out too :) Of course when you start splitting albums out like that it is normal that those appear incomplete.

At least the filepath can be sub-divided like I do otherwise that would be a real drag for me (for one Opera I have 4 versions -- 18 different cds -- long filename problems guaranteed, not to mention the mess on the hard drive. I was really reacting prematurely to that.

I guess I was surprised because it was awhile that I checked this and was surprised at how many albums were marked incomplete, is all! I'll just set-up a different view and tag my complete albums "complete" in some way and use that as a filter. Or use those fields total tracks total disc, simpler than regex.

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