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Title: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: AlanDistro on September 05, 2016, 01:37:13 pm
I use dBpoweramp to rip CDs and makemkv to rip DVDs. However, every time I put a disc into the drive, JRiver freezes up and stretches itself down into the bottom Windows taskbar for 10-15 seconds while it retrieves metadata and reads the disc. I'm assuming during this time it's also denying access to the disc for dBpoweramp, slowing dB down from grabbing metadata. I've clicked "Take No Action" when a disc is inserted in JRiver, but JRiver still reads every single disc and locks up for a bit every time I insert a new disc.

Is there any way to get JRiver to completely and forever ignore my disc drives? (other than ripping on a different computer)
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: ~OHM~ on September 05, 2016, 02:55:36 pm
windows basic 101....
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: RoderickGI on September 05, 2016, 05:52:23 pm
If you are thinking Autoplay TAO1857, and this is a Windows 10 PC that has been upgraded from an earlier version, I have found Autoplay to be very dodgy, not remembering interactive answers to questions, settings and such.

So that could be the problem here. I have to assume that MC isn't set to import from the disc drive, because that would just be a very bad idea. If MC is closed and this still happens, it has to be Autoplay starting MC.

So Alan, test for the problem when MC is closed. If it still happens, look into Windows Autoplay as see if you can get it to stop launching MC when you insert a disc. Do this in the settings, not when you insert a disc. If you can't get MC to stop launching, turn Autoplay off and test again.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: marko on September 06, 2016, 02:33:50 am
windows basic 101....
This isn't helpful. If you don't know, then you don't know. We all had to learn at some point.

RoderickGI
I kind of got the impression that MC launching wasn't the issue here. The first post reads as though MC is already running, but that AlanDistro just wants it to leave the disc drive alone when a disc is inserted. I may be wrong about that though...

As well as setting MC to "Take no action" when the disc is inserted, you also need to tell it not to do the online lookup...

AlanDistro,
Try this in MC's options, see if that helps at all...
Open options, and type online in the search bar at the bottom.
Take the tick out of "Allow automatic CD lookup/submission"
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: RoderickGI on September 06, 2016, 06:20:37 am
Yeah I meant Windows Autoplay was trying to open the CD/DVD contents, which can happen whether MC is running or not.

The "Take No Action" should stop that, but I have found that unreliable in Windows 10.

Thinking about it again, I suspect your suggestion is more likely the problem.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: AlanDistro on September 06, 2016, 09:19:55 am
AlanDistro,
Try this in MC's options, see if that helps at all...
Open options, and type online in the search bar at the bottom.
Take the tick out of "Allow automatic CD lookup/submission"

Thanks, I did this, I'll see if it locks up the next time I rip.

And you were right, the problem happens when JRiver is already running, I'm listening all day in the background, so JRiver is always open. And then any time I insert a CD to rip, even if JRiver isn't the focused program, it still pops up the "looking up disc info" or whatever it says, and locks up for the 10 seconds that it takes and it's just a little annoying. :) I'll update if this fixes it.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: AlanDistro on September 06, 2016, 05:22:31 pm
Didn't work, I still get the "Analyzing optical disc" and spinning wheel from JRiver when inserting media. Won't be a huge deal in another tow months, but I'm at the end of ripping all of my CDs, have about 600 left, and the pause at the beginning of every single one is enough to make me want to shut down JRiver until I'm done hah. Everything in the menu is unchecked w/r/t metadata and whatnot.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: mwillems on September 06, 2016, 05:28:25 pm
Thanks, I did this, I'll see if it locks up the next time I rip.

And you were right, the problem happens when JRiver is already running, I'm listening all day in the background, so JRiver is always open. And then any time I insert a CD to rip, even if JRiver isn't the focused program, it still pops up the "looking up disc info" or whatever it says, and locks up for the 10 seconds that it takes and it's just a little annoying. :) I'll update if this fixes it.

Just wanted to say I feel your pain.  I ripped about 2k CDs last year with dBpoweramp and JRiver playing music in the background and I saw the exact same behavior you saw.  I never found a fix either and had a thread running on it for a bit.  I think it's just "the way things are."
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: mark_h on September 07, 2016, 03:04:01 am
Have also reported similar in past.  I have yet to find a way to stop MC from interfering when I insert an optical disc...  frustrating.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: JimH on September 07, 2016, 07:11:36 am
You can set this in MC, in Windows, and in other applications.  Try all 3.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: Dorsai on September 07, 2016, 07:27:25 am
I have the same issue and have already done everything within MC and Windows to disassociate MC and CDs and still have the same issue.

Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: mark_h on September 08, 2016, 02:59:09 am
You can set this in MC, in Windows, and in other applications.  Try all 3.

Tried many times over the years, Jim.  Doesn't work.  MC will still try to interfere.  Actually, at one point I got it to stop trying to scan CDs, but that also seems to be back.

All my Windows auto-plays are OFF.  MC AutoPlay set to Nothing.  File Associations all set to NO for optical discs, but I still see the Analyzing Optical Disc window.  Not for all discs, though, that's the confusing part, but for too many...
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: Ashfall on September 08, 2016, 06:32:13 am
I've also had this problem with MC 19, 20, 21, 22 on Windows 7, 8, 8.1, 10.  Spent a lot of time on it just like the rest of you before giving up.  It's not as bad once you're huge ripping project is over.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: mark_h on September 08, 2016, 06:53:04 am
I often end up shutting MC down entirely when ripping lots of discs.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: amsco15 on September 08, 2016, 07:36:42 am
I also use dbpoweramp to rip CDs.  I've looked many times for a switch in MC to shut off auto access to the CD drives with no success.  Not a big issue but would be nice if available.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: RD James on September 08, 2016, 04:28:40 pm
I also have this problem when ripping discs. I have to quit JRiver or it slows things down too much waiting 30s+ every time I change discs.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: AlanDistro on September 08, 2016, 04:45:27 pm
Glad to hear I'm not the only one with the issue, but sad to hear it's probably here to stay. I'll try just shutting JRiver down and listening via Spotify or something while ripping. 600 discs to go, then I'm done and will only have to worry about new purchases - yay!
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: rec head on September 08, 2016, 06:34:11 pm
I use MC to rip CDs so I don't have the problem there but I've always had it when I insert a BD to rip in MakeMKV while MC is running. I have tried turning off all autoplay  options I could find in Windows and MC. I just quit MC first and it saves a lot of time.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: yonkiman on September 11, 2016, 11:16:34 am
Add me to the list of users affected by this.  Tried turning off every related option I could find in MC22 and Win10.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: JimH on September 11, 2016, 11:40:24 am
Do you have AnyDVD or similar software installed?
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: yonkiman on September 11, 2016, 02:48:00 pm
The programs I have installed that might have something to do with the optical drive are Handbrake (the program I was using when I noticed this), MakeMKV, and VLC (my best guess at what "AnyDVD or similar software" would be).
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: RoderickGI on September 13, 2016, 07:44:09 pm
AnyDVD (https://www.redfox.bz/en/anydvdhd.html) is a specific optical disc decryption application.

It runs in the background and monitors the optical drive for disc insertion.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: AlanDistro on September 14, 2016, 09:04:27 am
Not sure who Jim was directing his question at, but no, no AnyDVD. I have MakeMKV and VLC and dBpoweramp as the only other apps that should be addressing the optical drive outside of MC and Windows itself. But I don't think it's an other software problem as everyone else posting to this thread, including beta team members, see the exact same behavior. Thankfully I've finished another 200 CDs since starting this thread, only ~400 to go and then I can deal with it once or twice a week when adding new purchases. :)
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: JimH on September 14, 2016, 09:17:45 am
Does anyone who has this problem not have MakeMKV or VLC or Handbrake or DBPoweramp installed?

I'm not ruling out the possibility that this is an MC problem.  I'm just trying to learn what might be causing it.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: rec head on September 15, 2016, 07:48:29 am
I have MakeMKV and VLC on the machine.
Title: Re: getting JRiver to ignore CD/DVD drives
Post by: imeric on September 17, 2016, 01:41:48 pm
I also have the issue but last time I ripped a couple of CDs with dBpoweramp I closed MC + Server beforehand and it still took a while for dBpoweramp to respond...

I'll do a few more tests next time I ripped CDs...