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More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 23 for Windows => Topic started by: Manfred on April 03, 2018, 12:09:01 pm
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If it is not a 1st April joke, Oppo (I think many people of this forum have an Oppo BD/UHD player) exits this business.
Oppo exits business:
https://www.oppodigital.com/ (https://www.oppodigital.com/)
For me the questions are:
- Will UHD disk survey
- How MC will support UHD format?
- Or is Apple TV the future for streaming video content? If yes are there 4K pcie HDMI input cards to integrate ATV into MC?
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Wow. Really surprising to me.
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MC supports UHD now ... content without protection (like deUHD or makeMKV rips)
Protected disc are not supported by MC (never were) ... and there are no third party tools to my knowledge that can remove protection in real time from UHD discs (like DVDfab did for dvds)
MC supports capture cards ... BUT ... most pay streaming require HDCP on HDMI receiving end that protects content ... most capture cards (if not all) don’t have HDCP ... there are ways to work around it (hence lots of UHD rips from HDMI) ... but that’s something MC is not involved in (like MC is not involved in removing protection from DVD and Blu-ray Disc) for obvious reasons
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OPPO was in a niche market due to their pricing. There are many other UHD Blu-ray players out there that work just fine. I do video calibration and most of my customers do not use an OPPO. There is Samsung, Sony, Panasonic, XBox, and LG. Walmart recently was selling the LG UHD players for ~$50. With the ability to now play any UHD disc on the PC, OPPO has even more competition. Not having any apps didn't help OPPO either.
Protected disc are not supported by MC (never were) ... and there are no third party tools to my knowledge that can remove protection in real time from UHD discs (like DVDfab did for dvds)
I have DeUHD and AnyDVD HD and they both remove protection in real time for UHD discs. I can insert a UHD disk and play it immediately.
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I have DeUHD and AnyDVD HD and they both remove protection in real time for UHD discs. I can insert a UHD disk and play it immediately.
That is surprising ... as I thought DeUHD work like makeMKV (remove protection while ripping only ... never thought of using it that way) ... AnyDVD removing UHD protection is surprising too
Both surprised are good surprises :)
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Oppo is a Chinese company who is primarily in the phone business these days. They decided that the audio market was just not profitable anymore. There are just too many good enough Blu-Ray players available for much less than their prices. They thrived when BR was new and they could out-innovate everyone and users would pay for that innovation. Things have moved on - and so have they. Thanks to them for all they did for us.
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I really hate to see them go. I wanted an Oppo for many years but could not see paying the price until they came out with the UDP-203. I bought one last year and cannot believe how good a player it is. I am using it with my Integra DTR70.4 and LG OLED B65 and the picture and sound quality is fantastic. Most of my Bluray's look almost as good as the UHD disc's when played through the Oppo and upscaled. Even regular DVD's look great. I just hope they continue to offer firmware updates to keep up with the new copy protections that keep coming out. I know many people complain about issues with the 203 but I have not had one problem with mine. If anyone is on the fence about buying one, better get one while you still can. As for the lack of streaming, for me that is a non issue. most every smart TV sold today has streaming capabilities.
One of these days when I get time, I want to try playing MC through the HDMI input on the Oppo as it has a very capable DAC.
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The Cambridge CXUHD uses the same Mediatek platform as the Oppo, and has comparable quality. They maintain that it will stay in development.
Can be more costly depending on location however.
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Very sad. The Oppo does so much more than just spinning discs - moveable subtitles being a big one for me with a 2.35:1 screen - but even bigger is two way RS232 - the Oppo reports changes to audio codecs/colourspaces as they occur - I pick up these strings and then automate my cinema based on them. Oh, and it interfaces great with JRiver for DLNA. No other player I'm aware of does all these things. Guess I'll have to grab some spares!
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Not having any apps didn't help OPPO either.
I was so happy that they bailed on the apps. Being a bit of purist, I wanted just a straight standalone bluray/uhd player with a clean interface and that's what I got.
apps frankly were pointless since the TV, PC, streaming devices, game console all pretty much have the same set of apps.
Ultimately I think Oppo is an early casualty of streaming and the business just didn't turn a profit, or significant enough profit to make it worthwhile continuing to focus resources on it when they could be better utilized elsewhere.
I need to find a backup to my BDP-105; in case it fails, so I won't be SOL with backing up SACD. Already have a few UHD compatible drives for the same reason... These new capabilities to backup up discs are very hardware dependent at this time.
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I mostly use the Oppo BDP-105D as a network player, HDMI switch, listening to Tidal, watching netflix and listening / watching Berliner Concert hall
I do not spin too many discs (DVD, SACD, BRs) with it (I ripped SACD ISO since the 105D has the right mediatek chipset capable of this 8) )
It is a pity they are going out of of business ... maybe they are feeling that music and movies stored on a physical format has ended their days ...