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Networks and Remotes => Media Network => Topic started by: Matt on March 12, 2010, 05:09:35 pm
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WebRemote is a way to control Media Center or an attached DLNA device using a web browser.
The current implementation is designed to look good on mobile devices like a Google phone, iPhone, etc. The system is template and skin based, so other designs are possible.
JRiver DLNA servers and renderers, visible in Windows Explorer > Network, will also expose WebRemote on right-click > "View device webpage".
Please see the WebRemote Instructions (http://wiki.jrmediacenter.com/index.php/WebRemote) on our Wiki.
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There are some known issues.
The server doesn't build thumbnails on demand. So you will need thumbnails built to see art when browsing.
When viewing from a DLNA device in Windows, the CSS is not being applied. The CSS file is available and requested. We're not sure why this is happening.
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Looks very very good so far on my WinMo! Couple of early comments:
1) I'm not sure if it is the building thumbs but sometimes it feels kinda sluggish & the play option does not seem to work, but other times it is just ripping along and working as planned. Not much help I know but if I work out was is happening I'll descrive it better
2) Views: I'd love to see my TheaterView Views in WebRemote instead of the Std Ones. Is this something that is comming?
:) :)
Nathan
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2) Views: I'd love to see my TheaterView Views in WebRemote instead of the Std Ones. Is this something that is comming?
They'll be customizable, using basically the same interface as DLNA servers and Theater View.
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WebRemote isn't working quite right with zones.
I can use a wireless device to play to a Streamium (DLNA device) from a Media Center.
But I couldn't get the 'Playing Now' view in WebRemote to show the Streamium.
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I could control the zones on an MC Instance fine but at one point I had to leave the Playing Now screen as it was not doing anything, back to the library, play a song, then PN was fine again.
Thanks
Nathan
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I found the easiest way to start it was to e-mail myself the link to an account I could read on my Google phone.
199.242.xxx.157:52200
Then open e-mail and click on the link.
This is still a little rough, but amazingly cool.
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does the music play on the phone or on the MC computer?
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On the MC PC - It's a RC using a web browser over a mouse/keyboard/remote
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Cool. This is a good improvement. I'm looking forward to new builds here. If you document this well it might be easy for you, or other people, to make their own apps for Android and iPhones. It might be a bit better than the web based one for such small devices. Just a thought.
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Ran into a possible bug.
My output was set to AISO (wich worked when not using WebRemote). I then started the WebRemote locally and played a file. No playback, MC15 got the focus, telling me AISO did not work. Set the Output to Direct Sound and everything plays fine.
This might be due to some bad setup on this test computer though...
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way cool! Just what I needed. works fine via desktop browser. Will try on my nokia 5800 tnite.
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Little bug:
Non-english characters are not shown correctly. At least when doing http://localhost:52200 in Firefox 3.6
The only place where they are OK is "Playing Now".
When in "View complete Playing Now playlist" I get question marks.
Anywhere in Media Library I get question marks (Albums, Artists..)
--max
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Here's a picture of what WebRemote looks like. In the picture, I've run it in IE on a PC, just because it was easy to copy and paste. It looks great on a small device like a Google Phone or Touch.
(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/8D12431D-7EA0-495D-9EA2-775091458CB9/WebRemote/32054157_orig1.jpg)
More pictures here:
http://pix01.com/Tj@uaES
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When doing this web project, please use Opera as a test browser. I might be a bit partial because it's a Norwegian company, but it's truly the only browser that really follows the web standards :)
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I agree with Jim - it looks really good on my WinMo (using Opera so I get bonus points from MrHaugen)!
Funny thing is it "feels" different it's presentation, layout, navigation, and commands. For some reason I was expecting a more TheaterView paradigm.
Anyway - great work and it looks like you have a single Control Point solution regardless of the server type!
Thanks
Nathan
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Take Screenshots on Your Windows Mobile Device (http://www.iliumsoft.com/site/fp/screen_capture.php)
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I played a bit more with WebRemote:
-- As I mentioned before, no-english characters (unicode?) do not show-up correctly throughout the whole thing except for the Playing Now page.
-- MC15 crashes when I open Media Library | Artists (or Albums) - maybe because I have a lot of those (close to 2000). Err message - "The The exception Privileged instruction (0xc00blahblah) occured in the application at location 0x006blah
-- Tried on Dell Axim running WinMo 5 with built-in IE. Worked but layout wasn't good - a lot of empty space at the top (almost entire screen, 400 pixels or so)
-- Tried on Nokia 5800 XM. For some reason it didn't work at all. Server times out in both built-in browser and Opera. Tried both wifi and 3G connections.
I am sure it's in the works but would be nice if WR would present long lists (like Artists, Albums, Title) not as a single list (2000 items with cover art take a long time to load even on a desktop PC) but grouped by 1st letter.
Just FYI.
Thanks!
--max
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I've been using xpTunes on my iPhone for a while and this webremote definitely looks like a tempting replacement (displays rather nicely on the iPhone, no need to run an external program that sometimes fails, etc.).
A few xpTunes things that I miss though:
_ use groupings to break down long lists but I understand it will be coming with the ability to define views for WebRemote.
_ click the artist or album in playing now to jump to those sections in the library
_ rate tracks
_ close MC, shutdown or put the computer to sleep (I realize that in xptunes those last two are dependent on running a vnc server on the host machine, but since you can also do that in the exit menu in Theater View, I'm assuming MC can do this on its own)
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Did this stop working in V.06? I can browse the library from the WebBroswer (both on my phone and from the desktop) but I can not seem to get anything to play (well I did once). It's like MC is not taking the request but is serving the Web Pages. Let me know if you want logs etc.
Thanks
Nathan
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V .07 Testing: There seems to be a couple of ports with different behaviours:
1) http://rumpus:52200/playingnow.html --> you can play/pause etc fine but if you press STOP in PlayingNow, you can then the Play/Pause does not restart playback.
2) http://192.168.1.100:52200/playingnow.html --> you get this one if you right click --> open device webpage from Windows Explorer/Networks. This is the one where you can browse the Library but you can not play anything (MC just ignores it).
Thanks
Nathan
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2) http://192.168.1.100:52200/playingnow.html --> you get this one if you right click --> open device webpage from Windows Explorer/Networks. This is the one where you can browse the Library but you can not play anything (MC just ignores it).
This is just funneling from the DLNA server to the same code. So basically any DLNA server acts as an entry point to WebRemote.
When I access the server this way, no style sheet is used so it looks wrong. We can't figure out why.
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When doing this web project, please use Opera as a test browser. I might be a bit partial because it's a Norwegian company, but it's truly the only browser that really follows the web standards :)
I dusted off an old WinMo 5 PocketPC when we started on this. It has the opposite of a sexy iPhone interface. You get to use a stylus for everything.
I installed Opera on it and was really impressed with how it gave slick animations and a touch-friendly interface on the older device.
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I got a chance to play with this a bit tonight. Some testing notes:
- The server will crash some time when viewing huge lists of artists or albums
- At one point, it showed a different song as playing (on the DLNA renderer and remote) than what it was actually playing
- At the root of Media Library, it's showing 'Audio' where it should be showing 'Playlists'
- DLNA renderers show 'Opening...' forever as the playback state
- When nothing is playing, it would look better if Playing Now showed a logo or some other art
- Going into an item with only one child should probably keep skipping levels until it reaches a level with more than one choice
- Playing Now fills the current image two different ways -- tokens and AJAX; it should only use AJAX
- Play from a stopped state doesn't work (also reported above)
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15.0.7
International characters - fixed. Thanks!
-- MC15 still crashes when loading Artists or Albums. I have a large library. It actually loads the complete list and crashes midway when retrieving the covers.
-- Still cannot get it to load on my Nokia 5800 XM (nither built-in nor Opera browser). Reports server time-out.
-- On Dell Axim Works OK with an ancient built-in browser but fails to load on the new Opera Mini (server time-out).
-- On Dell Axim built-in browser the layout is bad - too much wasted space at the top (first bit of information is off screen).
Just FYI.
--max
I played a bit more with WebRemote:
-- As I mentioned before, no-english characters (unicode?) do not show-up correctly throughout the whole thing except for the Playing Now page.
-- MC15 crashes when I open Media Library | Artists (or Albums) - maybe because I have a lot of those (close to 2000). Err message - "The The exception Privileged instruction (0xc00blahblah) occured in the application at location 0x006blah
-- Tried on Dell Axim running WinMo 5 with built-in IE. Worked but layout wasn't good - a lot of empty space at the top (almost entire screen, 400 pixels or so)
-- Tried on Nokia 5800 XM. For some reason it didn't work at all. Server times out in both built-in browser and Opera. Tried both wifi and 3G connections.
I am sure it's in the works but would be nice if WR would present long lists (like Artists, Albums, Title) not as a single list (2000 items with cover art take a long time to load even on a desktop PC) but grouped by 1st letter.
Just FYI.
Thanks!
--max
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Also:
Under Audio, Artists listed twice.
Under Images, Year listed twice.
Under Video, All Files (by date imported) listed twice.
- At the root of Media Library, it's showing 'Audio' where it should be showing 'Playlists'
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Would it not be a bit better to list artists, albums and titles in a simpler list without all the cover art, or is this something that can be configured already? I would like to switch between the list styles, but I don't know what is really possible with this DLNA system.
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I really like this! Here are some screen shots from my WinMo TouchHD 480x800 screen - as you can see most look great though sometimes the thumbs don't build correctly. (thanks to hit_ny for the link to the screen capture app).
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Last one... PS - I was showing this off to my wife earlier who commented that we have had remote controls for decades.....
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Another bug - at the bottom level in Videos you can not play or add a single file (but at higher levels you can play or add whole groups just fine)
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Last one... PS - I was showing this off to my wife earlier who commented that we have had remote controls for decades.....
I had to laugh when I read that. Women can be so devastatingly accurate sometimes. It's very humbling.
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Yup I had no answer....
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As I've told ya all before. I'm not real bright. Is there specific direction in the Wiki or manual? I'm missing something here.
Thanks
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As I've told ya all before. I'm not real bright. Is there specific direction in the Wiki or manual? I'm missing something here.
Thanks
In MC's Options, check all 4 options under "Network" for DLNA and WebRemote.
Then in a browser on your local PC, use this link:
http://localhost:52200
If that works, try it from a different PC or device. Change localhost to the IP address of MC's server or to the machine name. Here's an example:
http://firstmachine:52200
52200 is the port it's running on. Check the log in DLNA (Tree/Devices/DLNA) to see what the port is. It could be different.
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Jim, Thanks for the help. Maybe I need to just give up and push play. Looking under Options I have 3 check boxes. Controller, Render, Server. Nothing about Network. And can't find Tree/Devices/DLNA anywhere. Thanks for trying
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Jim, Thanks for the help. Maybe I need to just give up and push play. Looking under Options I have 3 check boxes. Controller, Render, Server. Nothing about Network. And can't find Tree/Devices/DLNA anywhere. Thanks for trying
I'm sorry. Webremote is in MC15. Maybe tomorrow.
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Cool, thought I'd done lost my mind.. Guess I should really read the subject
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I really like this! Here are some screen shots from my WinMo TouchHD 480x800 screen - as you can see most look great though sometimes the thumbs don't build correctly. (thanks to hit_ny for the link to the screen capture app).
Better now :)
Its exactly the same as what Jim posted above in a browser but now I understand what you mean by looking good on the small screen,
I take it there is no way to rate anything using this method ?
Just navigation mostly.
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As part of our rigorous testing process here, Bob decided to try it on a Nintendo DS. It almost worked.
(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/8D12431D-7EA0-495D-9EA2-775091458CB9/Nintendo_DS/581401828_orig0.jpg)
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Is there a reason why the position counter cannot count up every second rather than every 4 seconds as is occurring at present?
Like where this is going =)
Just wish I had a posh phone to use it on ;D
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Maybe the whole page gets redrawn every 5 sec?
On my Nokia 5800 XM (Opera browser) I noticed that the cover art gets redrawn every 5 sec as well - doesn't look good (as it redraws slowly). On my desktop I don't notice the cover art being redrawn...
Is there a reason why the position counter cannot count up every second rather than every 4 seconds as is occurring at present?
Like where this is going =)
Just wish I had a posh phone to use it on ;D
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Haven't had the chance to try this at home yet but I just tried it at work. I had doubts on the corporate network but with another computer I was able to easily access MC. Pretty cool!
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How hard would it be to realize this in an Andoid app? (or iPh and WebOS, by all means) That would be a big argument for MC15 for me. Couldn't hurt to be listed in the various app stores either.
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How hard would it be to realize this in an Andoid app? (or iPh and WebOS, by all means) That would be a big argument for MC15 for me. Couldn't hurt to be listed in the various app stores either.
Exactly. If J River builds this on functions that can be used in apps as well, this could be a big thing.
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Exactly. If J River builds this on functions that can be used in apps as well, this could be a big thing.
A native remote app would be awesome. Even more awesome? A player mode where it does not control your MC but instead becomes a mobile MC which streams your library for playback *on* the device. Sort of like the things Sugarsync have built into their Android cliend (or, if you will, like Spotify, but the server is your own computer). Ah, I realize that this is a pipe dream. A native remote app would be sufficient (and of course, the portable player sync functionality that you already have).
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... It looks great on a small device like a Google Phone or Touch.
The font and thumbs are very large for it being designed for a PDA(?) IE, with a little bit more room you could make room for play/stop buttons at the top of every page(?)
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Probably this is not the right forum for this question, but anyhow - I am trying to get the WebRemote-feature running, so I set up an account at www.dyndns.org in order to get a static IP to be able to access WebRemote via the public Internet.
Well, I can now access the homepage of my router via the Internet at http://PERSONALIZEDNAME.homeip.net/ - so the static IP-service works well, but when I try http://PERSONALIZEDNAME.homeip.net:52199 , I get an error message.
WebRemote is activated at port 52199, running MC 15.0.17
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You need to setup port forwarding on your router. I can't tell you how to do that as it is different on each device. If you need more help, please start a new thread.
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I am really excited about using WebRemote! I love it. It changes the entire experience for me now.
I am using a phone/PDA running WinMo6.1 (Samsung Jack) IE did not work in controlling the WebRemote. It would browse to files but not play or stop etc.
But Opera Mobile works ok.
Requires the ip address for the MediaCenter computer. I could not use the Windows name, which is unfortunate because the IP address of the MediaCenter computer might change through DHCP. Same issue with my wife's iPhone. I know that the name resolution is an issue with the mobile device.
In Opera it works best at a zoom level of 60%. I think, however, that the Opera Mobile is finicky and hangs up after a minute of inactivity. The Opera Mobile browser will then not get anything back from WebRemote, until I close Opera completely and re-launch it on the phone. WebRemote continues to work, however, on a desktop browser.
Anyways - Great, great work. Thank you. Let me know if there are any ideas on getting it to work on WinMo6.1 either IE, or Opera Mobile.
Surge
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I had same problem as Surge with the blackjack and windows mobile. I could get the playing now window, but couldn't activate the play/pause button etc.
Craig
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Requires the ip address for the MediaCenter computer. I could not use the Windows name, which is unfortunate because the IP address of the MediaCenter computer might change through DHCP.
Thanks for the kind words.
You could set your DHCP server to reserve an address (range) and then give your DLNA machine a fixed IP address, etc.
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I can't seem to figure out how to show "connected media" using the remote. Is there something I am missing in the setup or has this not been implemented yet?
thx,
Mike
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Does it - or will it eventually have - a "refresh" link for Smartlists? Otherwise they stick with the same tracks until you next go to MC proper.
Cheers!
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Have I told you guys Latelly You are The BOMB?
I Just Tried this On My New HTC HD2...This is so Fricken SWEET!!! and im so impressed... loads large libraries with ease.
few questions if i may? is there away to get rid of the (my opinion) ugly green? and make it black?
also My NUMBER One Request\WISH... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE is there away for you guys to allow ratings? for years ive been telling friends during parties here, i wanted the ability to control jriver from a cell phone (which it now does- Thank You SOooo Much) We have parties here almost every weekend. and alot of times i play playlists of never listened to, and want to 5 star a song. and some nights. i find myself going into the house 30-60 times just because someone thinks a song is awesome and wants it 5 star'd. I would PAY for a 5 star system on this webremote on top of my jriver annual purchase!
One Last Thing.. And I Know It doesnt belong here. do you guys offer anything IDENTICAL to webremote but for our cellphones for when we are away from home? meaning i could log into webremote(or what ever is needed) with my cell and stream my music, Movies etc to my phone while i'm in my car, or at hotels etc..?
I Can't say Thanks Enough, THANKS!!!
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Just An FYI... GF has a iphone. set this up on hers as well, after a few cocktails we were debating about who's phone's color display is a better picture, and who's phone is just cooler (hey but look what mine can do) and i noticed on her iphone the artists covers were always coming up. since this afternoon ive been using webremote, and i'd say 3\4 of the time the cover art would disappear leaving a white square, then i would have to hit playing now again then it would reload the image... My gf's iphone not once lost the image... Not sure if this helps in determing the covert issue, seems like on my htc that it mine be loosing connection while song is playing? or date drop until it feels me press the screen again maybe? or maybe its just not holding onto the covert within the app? i should note everything else is fine its just a dissapearing cover art.
the iphone... also when she leaves her internet browser, to go to another app and then returns back, it remembers where she was. on the htc hd2 if i leave opera and then come back after phone call etc... it brings me back to main webremote screen then i have to click playing now. so it's not remembering its last position for some reason?
ohhh and its been voted upon (9 people here now) Webremote Needs a 5 Star Option :D
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I don't see a way to search yet?? This is one thing I would like to request.
I'm really loving WebRemote :)
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I also find on my HTC HD2 using Opera that
1) not all thumbs appear
2) that I have to close Opera and restart after a period of inactivity else I can no longer browse WebRemote at all
Thanks
Nathan
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WebRemote working on my Nokia N97 Mini (symbian), using default browser. For some reason it wouldn't let me use the MC15 server name, had to use IP address instead (can use server name in chrome on windows 7). Haven't found a problem yet, back to playing...
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WebRemote working on my Nokia N97 Mini (symbian), using default browser. For some reason it wouldn't let me use the MC15 server name, had to use IP address instead (can use server name in chrome on windows 7). Haven't found a problem yet, back to playing...
That's a function of DNS. I know nothing of Symbian's operating system, but if there's a screen that displays network config such as IP address, gateway IP address, subnet, DNS ip address, DNS2 ip address that would be helpful.
In order to recognize your MC server name, it has to talk to the correct DNS server and ask it for the IP address related to that name.
Either it's not set up to ask the correct DNS server.
If I had to make a blind guess, it's set up to talk to an internet DNS server, which would not know anything about your local IP address and your local MC server name.
You'd have to configure it to talk to an internal DNS server which would have an IP address similar (all but the last number) as your MC server's ip address for it to work.
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Jmone. i just noticed tonight during bonfire.. when ever htc hd2 goes to sleep then i wanna change song thats when webremote looses sync and cover arts.... maybe there is a way for us to keep our htc's running when they turn off screen so that its always accessing the webremote server? i noticed if i keep clicking anywhere on screen to keep it from dimming or going to sleep, that thumbs and music info and interface keep up perfectly... any ideas?
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I know it is annoying - I had the similar thought...as I see that when the HTC comes back from sleep it re-establishes the WiFI connection and that Opera does not like this (mmmm I might try IE and see if it also has this problem)
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IE does not want to use my intrenal network so I'm trying changing the WiFi settings --> Power Save Mode: from the middle setting to "Best Performance"
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Loving WebRemote on my handheld (android). I'd love to be able to use it when watching movies. Any thoughts of adding "jump ahead" and "reverse"?
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WinMo 6.5 (HTC HD2) Sleep Issue: When the HTC HD2 is put into sleep mode (by timeout) or by pressing off "off" button once it disables the WiFi connection to save battery power. When the HTC HD2 comes back from sleep mode the WiFi connection is re-establed. Unfortunately the Web Browsers (tested with Opera, Opera 10, IE Mobile) all complain that the web site can not be found. You have to exit and restart the browser (refreshing the page is not enough). I don't know if this is something that can be "fixed" by JR.....however for now:
Workaround: There are two workarounds if you want to use WebRemote over a period of time
1) Uncheck "Turn off Device if not used for:" in Settings --> Battery & Backlight
2) Got to love XDA-Developers forum! There is a thread here discussing the issue and with success (for some) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5353195
Note: Having WiFi on all the time will impact battery life.
Thanks
Nathan
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I also notice that on the same phone the version of Opera that come in the OS can resolve the PC name fine, but for IE and Opera 10 I have to use the internal IP address....any ideas?
Thanks
Nathan
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lol... 2 funny just found his... app =
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524490&page=3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524490&page=3)
yet to try it... on my way.
u flash your htc yet jmone?
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I've always flashed my WinMo (was a Dutty fan) roms but this stock one is not too bad so only flashed the radio ROM so far (fixed an issue with the GPS). The tweaks to keep WiFi active are not working well for me (some reports suggested it does not work with the later radio roms).....Have you flashed one yet?
Also WebRemote is very very quick with Opera10 (but the screen is too wide).
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just got in from outside... will try the app tomm just checked im on opera 9.7 (do you suggest i update to 10 Jmone?)..
i just flashed for first time yesterday using TOUCH_X_TREME_23563_EURO_AND_TMOUS_576RAM_2_30_6_30 comes with cookietabs and chteditor. LOVIN IT! alot quicker! and battery seems to be lasting alot better. also new radio rom i'm using is Radio_2.10.50.08_2 alot louder and clearer calls. then from outta the box.
out of curiosity do u have a large jriver library? ive noticed if i chose genres\playlists, it works great. but if i choose artists, albums. opera falls on its face....just spins.
suggestion... we ran into tonight on top of ratings ;D.
is view playing now list... is there away for webremote to automatically bring you to where to are in the playing now list when ya view it? we were playing music for hours 2nite, and then we wanted to see what songs were coming up but it brings us to the beginning of when ya first started playing. so you have to scroll forever and keep your eyes peeled to find the song that last played, in order to see what songs are next. possible to make playing now show the list from the song lat played when we go to it?
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just got in from outside... will try the app tomm just checked im on opera 9.7 (do you suggest i update to 10 Jmone?)..
10 is very quick and is a side by side intall so if you don't like it just uninstall it. I like it but the rendering of the WebRemote page is different and is no longer "fits" horisontally.
i just flashed for first time yesterday using TOUCH_X_TREME_23563_EURO_AND_TMOUS_576RAM_2_30_6_30 comes with cookietabs and chteditor. LOVIN IT! alot quicker! and battery seems to be lasting alot better. also new radio rom i'm using is Radio_2.10.50.08_2 alot louder and clearer calls. then from outta the box.
I'm on 2.10 as well and HSPL'ed it. Just need to find a rom series I want to try...
out of curiosity do u have a large jriver library? ive noticed if i chose genres\playlists, it works great. but if i choose artists, albums. opera falls on its face....just spins.
Note large but it took about 20 seconds to go to the list view after selecting all Audio 5K Files and is still buidling the list and downloaded the thumbnails and will for many minutes I guess. Anyway Opera 10 does not stall on it.
Also I seem to have WiFi on all the time now (I tried a few methods but the last one on the page I linked to above, seems to be holding) an a rapidly diminishing battery!
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I like it but the rendering of the WebRemote page is different and is no longer "fits" horisontally.
is this something we could fix? or jriver maybe? i doubt we'll get opera to do it?!
Also I seem to have WiFi on all the time now (I tried a few methods but the last one on the page I linked to above, seems to be holding) an a rapidly diminishing battery!
did u do just the reg tweak? or download that app. that link i posted(ive yet to try it been busy with clients) says that there is an app. so basically when ya wanna use webremote ya would turn the app on which would enable the wifi in standby, and then once done with webremote you would just disable that app. I think. will try to get to playin with it later this eve.
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is this something we could fix? or jriver maybe? i doubt we'll get opera to do it?!
JR are makeing lots of changes so I hope so!
did u do just the reg tweak? or download that app. that link i posted(ive yet to try it been busy with clients) says that there is an app. so basically when ya wanna use webremote ya would turn the app on which would enable the wifi in standby, and then once done with webremote you would just disable that app. I think. will try to get to playin with it later this eve.
I did one of the tweaks and found that:
1) The battery drain of having WiFi on all the time was terrible
2) That if I moved away from range and came back in again the issue with WebRemote not working still occurs
For now, I'm currently trying the MortScript in Post #66 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6289179#post6289179 that lets you toggle this on and off in real time.
Soln: MC WebRemote must be using some form of session ID that is reset when the WiFi connection reconnects. I'm hoping that this can be changed so WebRemote funtions just like any other web site.
FYI - I've also flashed my HD2, I picked Duttys_Leo_Sense_2.5_5.2.21901.5.0.92_2.11_Radio_2.10.50.19_2_HG_V2.2_EN - hoping for a simple, stable ROM without all the bloat....
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I have read the Wiki instructions on Web Remote, but I am afraid that I do not understand how to set it up. I just would like to get it to run on my Motrola Droid (and my iPod Touch, too, if possible). I am not sure what I have to do in the Options/Network setting. Would you please help?
Thanks.
WebRemote is a way to control Media Center or an attached DLNA device using a web browser.
The current implementation is designed to look good on mobile devices like a Google phone, iPhone, etc. The system is template and skin based, so other designs are possible.
JRiver DLNA servers and renderers, visible in Windows Explorer > Network, will also expose WebRemote on right-click > "View device webpage".
Please see the WebRemote Instructions (http://wiki.jrmediacenter.com/index.php/WebRemote) on our Wiki.
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What have you done, and where do you get stuck? What happens?
Try connecting from a local browser. MC will do that for you in the network settings section.
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I was able to open the interface from my local brower, but I can't figure out how to open that browser on my Droid or my iPod Touch. In other words, it works fine on the desktop computer that is running MC15, but I don't know how to get that browser on the Droid or the iPod Touch.
Thanks.
What have you done, and where do you get stuck? What happens?
Try connecting from a local browser. MC will do that for you in the network settings section.
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You just replace the address that worked locally. Change localhost to the IP address of the machine you're connecting to.
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Sorry for my silly question (my technical skills have waned), but how do I know the IP address of my Droid (it's just an Android cell phone, not a computer) or my iPod Touch (same idea)?
Thanks.
You just replace the address that worked locally. Change localhost to the IP address of the machine you're connecting to.
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You don't need to know it.
On the server, run a CMD window and type ipconfig.
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I typed it, and a command-prompt window opened, displayed some text, and quickly disappeared. I am not sure what to do. Don't I have to do something on my Droid and my iPod Touch, too?
You don't need to know it.
On the server, run a CMD window and type ipconfig.
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ripper.. what i did was opened jriver tools settings network (providing you have newest version) if not get it.
once open look for the port jriver is using. on mine its 52198
then login to your router\modem. and goto port options and open that port number (52198) then go back to jriver settings manage access to server click on test connection. also ya need share your library, playlists, dlna server, dlna renderer, dlna controller checked\ticked.
in your cellphone browser(safari, opera, Ie, etc..) type in your ip addess with jim's instructions(, mine for example when i open my browser on my htc hd2 . is 192.167,8,136:52198/webplay this is saved as a bookmark for me so when i click on it it automatically opens jriver webplay for... if i'm AT HOME, if away from home you would use a diffrent ip.
If i want to use my phone to control jriver AT HOME ON PC not play it on phone i would use webremote... 192.167.8.136:52198/webremote
If i want to use my phone to listen to jriver ON MY PC not play it on PC i would use webplay... 192.167.8.136:52198/webplay
192.167.8.136 = ip address on router for jriver library of the computer i want to listen to or control while in my HOME network.
52198 = port number that i opened in my router\modem, and the port number in jriver network settings... look here to open your ports. http://portforward.com/ (http://portforward.com/)
/webremote = what ya wanna connect to .. webremote to control your jriver while around the house.. meaning listening to music vids etc ya can use your cell phones to change the songs volume etc on the PC..not STREAMINNG.
/webplay = streaming your files from the pc you chose from the ip you wrote in to your device browser.. so listening to music\vids pics etc on your device streamed from your jriver pc.
maybe this helps?
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in windows seven.start button in search type cmd enter. black box opens where its flashing in box type ipconfig then where it says ip address copy that.
also read my previous post for the rest of directions,port forwarding instructions and explanations, etc...
i have to run for few hrs. but someone else will be help to help ya from there.
Good luck
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I typed it, and a command-prompt window opened, displayed some text, and quickly disappeared. I am not sure what to do. Don't I have to do something on my Droid and my iPod Touch, too?
Windows Key and R brings up Run. Then type CMD. Type exit to close.
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Is it possible to search my library or press the first letter of an artist's name to skip to it? At the moment I am scralling down to get to artist further down the list and that's pretty inconvenient (I have a pretty large music library)! Any tips are appreciated...
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Anyone worked out how to add a Streaming Radio Station to WebRemote? In the WebRemote Views, "Connected Media" does not appear. Also tried to add it to a Playlist as a workaround but could not work that out either!
Thanks
Nathan
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After port forwarding, should I be able to open with Safari on my iPhone using the web location on LAN?
hifi
WebRemote is a way to control Media Center or an attached DLNA device using a web browser.
The current implementation is designed to look good on mobile devices like a Google phone, iPhone, etc. The system is template and skin based, so other designs are possible.
JRiver DLNA servers and renderers, visible in Windows Explorer > Network, will also expose WebRemote on right-click > "View device webpage".
Please see the WebRemote Instructions (http://wiki.jrmediacenter.com/index.php/WebRemote) on our Wiki.
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Port forwarding is usually used to forward requests from outside your local network. It shouldn't be needed if both client and server are on the local network.
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Port forwarding is usually used to forward requests from outside your local network. It shouldn't be needed if both client and server are on the local network.
I turned on the Library Server in 15 and tried the web location w/ my iPhone. The page wouldn't open, so I tried port forwarding as a long shot.
So it should work? I'll have to dig into again tonight.
I did get the my other PC connected with the access key; lots of changes but good to see.
Tried PlugPlayer again with DLNA; PlugPlayer is TERRIBLE for searching and it crashes constantly.
hifi
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I turned on the Library Server in 15 and tried the web location w/ my iPhone. The page wouldn't open, so I tried port forwarding as a long shot.
On the same page, check the options for DLNA on the right. Library Server won't stream to the iPhone.
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On the same page, check the options for DLNA on the right. Library Server won't stream to the iPhone.
I'm only interest in iPhone as remote, thus access to the web location WebRemote on Safari vs buggy PlugPlayer.
thanks
hifi
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WebRemote requires DLNA. Those are the checkboxes on the right in the Network section of options.
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Anybody doing anything about improving the web interface. Don't get me wrong, being able to control Mc from a browser is just great but I could think of a couple of ways of combining controls.
Would i be right in thinking it's just a case of changes either some xml or html pages?
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I'm only interest in iPhone as remote, thus access to the web location WebRemote on Safari vs buggy PlugPlayer.
thanks
hifi
Thats all I wanted as well, I tried all the info on here but a full day later I was still none the wiser. I eventually found an IPhone App called Rivermote that controls MC from my Iphone. Its early days but although it appears to work very well, it's not a patch on the VLC app which does EVERYTHING I need and more (using VLC player obviously).
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Rivermote is written by a forum member here and it does work pretty well (it has been out for quite some time, actually). Unfortunately, using Rivermote does require that you always launch MC via the little RiverMote server instead of directly, which is troublesome for me. If you forget and launch MC with your mouse or via any other means, then it won't work at all.
I'd really like to see a version of it work via the new web-based interface, and not require a server-side app at all. Actually, it should be possible with some simple scripting calls to make it work with AirMouse as well. I have this working right now just using keyboard shortcuts, but that only works if MC is in the foreground, and performance is bad.
The best thing would be a simple and well designed iPhone app that looks like a nice remote control and that simply uses the new MCWS interface, so it doesn't require anything server-side other than enabling the Library Server.
Thats all I wanted as well, I tried all the info on here but a full day later I was still none the wiser. I eventually found an IPhone App called Rivermote that controls MC from my Iphone. Its early days but although it appears to work very well, it's not a patch on the VLC app which does EVERYTHING I need and more (using VLC player obviously).
I'm pretty sure Jim figured out your issue in the other thread. The other possibilities are:
1. that you are trying to reach your copy of MC on your iPhone while NOT connected to your WiFi network (via the cellular network). If this is the case, you'd need to open that port on your router.
2. that the Windows Firewall is blocking the connection. Try turning it off temporarily (you have a firewall on your router anyway) to see if this is the case.
I can confirm that using the new WebRemote functionality works well. With the current build, it should not be hard to set up at all.
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It works well and easy to set up on iPhone. Never use plug player now with this.
I found it easier to launch the PC webremote, then copy the link and IM or email it to my phone. Then just replace "localhost" with the IP of the PC running the MC server and DNLA host.
PP takes too long at times to see servers and renders. Never had problems you mention after JR fixed the stop message being sent to PP.
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It works well and easy to set up on iPhone. Never use plug player now with this.
I found it easier to launch the PC webremote, then copy the link and IM or email it to my phone. Then just replace "localhost" with the IP of the PC running the MC server and DNLA host.
PP takes too long at times to see servers and renders. Never had problems you mention after JR fixed the stop message being sent to PP.
After all the messing about I tried this, clicked the link on my Iphone and it took me straight to my webremote page.... brilliant BUT, although I can now scroll through my library, nothing will play? I have MC open but when I select "play" on my Iphone nothing happens?
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After all the messing about I tried this, clicked the link on my Iphone and it took me straight to my webremote page.... brilliant BUT, although I can now scroll through my library, nothing will play? I have MC open but when I select "play" on my Iphone nothing happens?
Can anyone help me understand this? I can now see and interact with webremote from my iphone but when I select "play" nothing happens?
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I played around with WebRemote for the first time today, and got it working on my iPod Touch to control my PC and Roku Soundbridge. I must say this is a very cool and impressive feature. My initial attempts didn't work because I needed to configure the port on my router. Eventually, I figured out where to add the port in the router software so that MC15 could communicate with it.
After I was able to run MC15 from the Touch, all I had to do to control the Roku Soundbridge was to change the Zone from Zone1 (PC Speakers) to Roku Soundbridge on the WebRemote screen. Using the Touch with WebRemote makes for a much better remote to control the Soundbridge. The Soundbridge is hard to see from where I sit when I listen to music. Now, I can look down at the iPod Touch screen and run from there. I love being able to see the album art too. Thanks guys! ;D
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Jmone.... any success with webremote\WIFI staying on when your htc goes to sleep? ive FINALLY found a rom i'm happy with and looking to conquer this wifi issue. if it works on iphone's its gotta be able to work on our winmob devices!?
thanks
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Loads okay on iPhone but many issues:
no videos actually play
songs load but somsound like 56kbps mp3
songs won't load and won't play; have to skip ahead often
no cover art or info of what song is playing
you tube app wouldn't work until I closed safari windows which had loaded QuickTime
maybe these are the limitations for iPhone use; I don't know.
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Is it possible to remove songs from the Playing Now list?
I have Webremote working well. Definitely need to group if you have a large library. I had to stop the server, click out and then start the server again for some of my changes to appear. To anyone using Firefox - Try checking your changes in another browser if it seems like nothing is happening. Firefox can be brutal with it's caching, refreshing is not enough to update the screen.
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Is this still active. No posts for a long time. Guess I'll give it a try ;D
I'm currently on V12, but looking at this, I like the idea of using the WebRemote to use my phone.
I have installed V15 latest version as of today, and set up the settings per the instructions. I can see the web site when using the Localhost type link on the PC.
I have also opened the port on the firewall on the PC. I'm tryiing to get to this laptop with the phone over wireless.
I am unable to get to it. I even turned the firewall off on the laptop to eliminate that as a cause.
I am entering http://192.168.0.5:52199/WebRemote/, but getting address unavailable in the Opera Browser.
Any suggestions?
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I got it going. I finally opened the port on my wireless router. :-[
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Hallo,
I´m using webremote for some days now. It is actually pretty good, very fast and responsive.
I have one mayor problem that occurred yesterday:
I could use webremote quite well on my macbook pro and ipod touch with safari and safari mobile.
But on the ipod touch, now I can not control jriver anymore. I can still browse the files and see what is playing, but when I press "play" or "stop" etc. nothing happens.
Why doesn´t jriver respond to the ipod touch anymore?
Although webremote is a great feature I find some far from optimal:
1) With a large library it can get quite annoying to browse to an artist at the end of the alphabet.
There really should be some kind of sub-filtering in the library like "letters from the alphabet".
2) A search function would be very nice and would also compensate for point 1) .
3) when pressing "play" on a song in an album, the whole album should play, starting from the selected song (the behaviour like in jriver itself), not just one song.
But apart from this little points, which could maybe be solved by people with more html skills, it is really great.
If someone knew why my ipod touch is in browsing-only mode it would be even more perfect....
regards
Flo
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Is there a roadmap and timeframe for enhancements?
I'd could really use...
1) Sync Zones
2) Exit button that closes MC. - this is so EventGhost can see the app closing and turn off my receiver.
3) ability to send HTTP commands - to trigger other apps like EventGhost, Homeseer, etc?
xpTunes had a lot more functionality/usability... we really need a duplicate of the functionality it provides built-in on MC.
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I imagine, given some of the recent sync enhancements, that they will port features as they can over to WebRemote etc.
Is there a roadmap and timeframe for enhancements?
I'd could really use...
1) Sync Zones
2) Exit button that closes MC. - this is so EventGhost can see the app closing and turn off my receiver.
3) ability to send HTTP commands - to trigger other apps like EventGhost, Homeseer, etc?
xpTunes had a lot more functionality/usability... we really need a duplicate of the functionality it provides built-in on MC.
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You can do this. You need to configure your setup in Webremote section and can filter results by A-D, or A-H, etc. as you like...Matt reminded me of this a while ago in another thread.
Hallo,
I´m using webremote for some days now. It is actually pretty good, very fast and responsive.
I have one mayor problem that occurred yesterday:
I could use webremote quite well on my macbook pro and ipod touch with safari and safari mobile.
But on the ipod touch, now I can not control jriver anymore. I can still browse the files and see what is playing, but when I press "play" or "stop" etc. nothing happens.
Why doesn´t jriver respond to the ipod touch anymore?
Although webremote is a great feature I find some far from optimal:
1) With a large library it can get quite annoying to browse to an artist at the end of the alphabet.
There really should be some kind of sub-filtering in the library like "letters from the alphabet".
2) A search function would be very nice and would also compensate for point 1) .
3) when pressing "play" on a song in an album, the whole album should play, starting from the selected song (the behaviour like in jriver itself), not just one song.
But apart from this little points, which could maybe be solved by people with more html skills, it is really great.
If someone knew why my ipod touch is in browsing-only mode it would be even more perfect....
regards
Flo
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You can do this. You need to configure your setup in Webremote section and can filter results by A-D, or A-H, etc. as you like...Matt reminded me of this a while ago in another thread.
Thank you, this should actually work. But this creates another problem:
In Safari I use the "type to search" function a lot with my library. This means while I type, it begins to search and shows me the result immediately. When I create preordered pages for my mobile Safari, I can not search the whole library with my macbook-Safari anymore, only the smaller subpages. So this doesn´t work for me.
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Can someone explain this one to me please. I selected Audio and then Artist to listen to some Kasabian. I have thier three albums and to my dismay, web remote displayed all songs in all three albums in alphabetical order! why wouldnt web remote display the tree albums within the Kasabian folder and then display the tacks within each album folder in the normal order? Similarly, when I search for a band name, i get a list of all of their songs in alphabetical order. Why?
Secondly, page numbers have been added to make it easier to scroll through long lists of albums or artists. When will an alphanumeric bar be added (in fairness most free iphone remotes have this function)?
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I have been trying to find out if webremote displays the rating of a track that is playing?
If not, is there a way to customize the skin to display it? Did some searching on the wiki but could not find any info on this; is there something like PlaybackInfo.Rating I can use in html?
Changing the rating of a track would also be very nice, but only displaying it would help me a lot.
Thanks.
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I have been trying to find out if webremote displays the rating of a track that is playing?
If not, is there a way to customize the skin to display it? Did some searching on the wiki but could not find any info on this; is there something like PlaybackInfo.Rating I can use in html?
Changing the rating of a track would also be very nice, but only displaying it would help me a lot.
Thanks.
Shouldn't Rating access be a default part of WebRemote?
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Hello, new at this forum but been using webremote for some months now. Works great with both my Ipod touch 3g and Toshiba Folio 100. I wonder if there is a way to show the externa links (allmusic, wikipedia, amazon etc) in webremote. When I listen to music and use my folio 100 it would have been great to use wikipedia directly to the artist while listening.
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Hi,
Is there a way to "add (play now)" or "add (as next to play)" files through WebRemote.
Do I have to integrate a MCWS function in the html files?
Thanks,
Sheugel
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cant seem to get replies elsewhere on the forum.
those of you with newest version of jriver. have shuffle showing up on webremote\webplay? on my cellphone HTC HD2 and my GF iphone, we cannot get shuffle to show up? has this been removed?
Thanks
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I'll check. WebPlay frustrates me on my iPhone. In default form, I have to load individual songs. I'd like to play albums. May look into XPtunes again honestly. I'm sure you can do whatever you want with it, I just don't have time to customize it. No cover art either.
Guess I'm supposed to buy an Android?
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Is there a way to "add (play now)" or "add (as next to play)" files through WebRemote.
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Would it be possible to add "NextToPlay" and "PlayNow" locations for the PlayByKey MCWS function?
Thanks,
Sheugel
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Is it possible to refresh a smartlist using the webremote? I would like to refresh a smartlist that randomly selects songs from a particular genre.
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Also, can I use the webremote to pass a command to remote relay to change the volume on my audio receiver. The computer running media center 15 has an usb-uirt that has an emitter connected to my receiver. Currently, I have an older version of girder controlling the usb-uirt.