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Devices => JRiver Id -- Hardware by JRiver => Topic started by: marko on November 01, 2017, 02:02:08 am

Title: Watched one of Jim's videos... (and can I get what I want?)
Post by: marko on November 01, 2017, 02:02:08 am

In the past month or six, I watched a video Jim posted... In that video, I think he had an ID hanging out the back of his television. Is that right or am I imagining things?

I want/need something like that to plug into a wall mounted TV. It needs to be able to connect to the MC server over WiFi and deliver audio, video and pictures to the TV.

Is this possible?

Title: Re: Watched one of Jim's videos... (and can I get what I want?)
Post by: jmone on November 01, 2017, 03:05:04 am

How about the Intel Compute Stick?  Here is the review I did of the 2016 entry level model - https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,102778.0.html

There are now more powerful versions.

Title: Re: Watched one of Jim's videos... (and can I get what I want?)
Post by: Hendrik on November 01, 2017, 03:26:49 am

A NUC is also small enough to just be mounted on the back of a TV. They come with a VESA mounting plate which you can fit to the mounting part of the TV, but if the TV is wall-mounted, that is likely already in use by the wall mount.
But there is always duct tape. :)

If you want full video capabilities, you might want to consider a slightly more powerful version of the NUC (with an Id USB Kit, for example). Perfect would be a 8000 series quad-core CPU, but I'm not sure when 8000 series NUCs are coming out (any previous generations are only dual cores) - probably only Q1/Q2 2018.

Title: Re: Watched one of Jim's videos... (and can I get what I want?)
Post by: RoderickGI on November 01, 2017, 06:42:58 pm

Android TV?

Run Panel under Chrome on it?

I should try that and see if it works. I'm not even sure that I can get Chrome for my Sony Android TV, but I might take a look. I suspect the built-in browser wouldn't work, but that could be worth a try as well.

With so many TVs using Android now, a native Android MC Client App would be very useful. But I guess there would still be issues with different implementations of Android on different makes and models of TV.

Title: Re: Watched one of Jim's videos... (and can I get what I want?)
Post by: JimH on November 01, 2017, 06:51:09 pm

There are some NUC's coming that may work better for video.  Stay tuned.

Title: Re: Watched one of Jim's videos... (and can I get what I want?)
Post by: marko on November 02, 2017, 01:23:14 am

Thanks for the replies. I can wait :)

The TV will be our old Sony Bravia... Want to get a new one for the main room... Don't know what to get... 43" max I think, it's a good start eh :D

Title: Re: Watched one of Jim's videos... (and can I get what I want?)
Post by: robt on November 02, 2017, 11:02:35 am

My NUC6i3 works fine with all aspects of MC. HD video at full blu ray rate works without a hitch. I even downloaded some 4k video which was transcoded to 1080p and that worked too. DSDs work.

The gen 8s will no doubt be even more powerful, but considerably more expensive too....

Title: Re: Watched one of Jim's videos... (and can I get what I want?)
Post by: JimH on November 02, 2017, 11:22:45 am

robt,
Could you run JRiver's benchmark on that machine? 

Thanks.

Title: Re: Watched one of Jim's videos... (and can I get what I want?)
Post by: robt on November 03, 2017, 01:21:11 am

As requested.


=== Running Benchmarks (please do not interrupt) ===

Running 'Math' benchmark...
    Single-threaded integer math... 6.659 seconds
    Single-threaded floating point math... 4.595 seconds
    Multi-threaded integer math... 3.394 seconds
    Multi-threaded mixed math... 2.581 seconds
Score: 1103

Running 'Image' benchmark...
    Image creation / destruction... 0.273 seconds
    Flood filling... 0.252 seconds
    Direct copying... 0.454 seconds
    Small renders... 1.529 seconds
    Bilinear rendering... 2.005 seconds
    Bicubic rendering... 1.204 seconds
Score: 3848

Running 'Database' benchmark...
    Create database... 0.213 seconds
    Populate database... 1.441 seconds
    Save database... 0.410 seconds
    Reload database... 0.093 seconds
    Search database... 1.548 seconds
    Sort database... 1.042 seconds
    Group database... 0.659 seconds
Score: 3977

JRMark (version 23.0.77 x64): 2976

Title: Re: Watched one of Jim's videos... (and can I get what I want?)
Post by: robt on November 03, 2017, 01:27:02 am

While we're doing benchmarks, I've just built an Asrock Deskmini 110 with a Kay Lake i3 7100

Its quite a lot bigger than a NUC but still tiny by any other standards. Has a vesa mount for attaching to the back of a monitor.

Here is the benchmark for that

=== Running Benchmarks (please do not interrupt) ===

Running 'Math' benchmark...
    Single-threaded integer math... 3.920 seconds
    Single-threaded floating point math... 2.699 seconds
    Multi-threaded integer math... 2.091 seconds
    Multi-threaded mixed math... 1.491 seconds
Score: 1863

Running 'Image' benchmark...
    Image creation / destruction... 0.165 seconds
    Flood filling... 0.237 seconds
    Direct copying... 0.407 seconds
    Small renders... 0.895 seconds
    Bilinear rendering... 1.184 seconds
    Bicubic rendering... 0.712 seconds
Score: 6110

Running 'Database' benchmark...
    Create database... 0.127 seconds
    Populate database... 0.823 seconds
    Save database... 0.228 seconds
    Reload database... 0.048 seconds
    Search database... 0.983 seconds
    Sort database... 0.604 seconds
    Group database... 0.681 seconds
Score: 6155

JRMark (version 23.0.77 x64): 4709

Title: Re: Watched one of Jim's videos... (and can I get what I want?)
Post by: JimH on November 03, 2017, 06:50:49 am

Thanks.