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Title: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on April 29, 2008, 06:06:40 pm
Installation

Tips

(http://www.pix01.com/gallery/F0F6BE16-3203-484D-A64C-30B1D0F67886/Screenshots/708584556_orig2.jpg)

Version 2.0  April 29, 2008

Version 2.1  Sept. 27, 2008

Version 2.2  Oct. 6, 2008

Version 2.3  Oct. 23, 2008

Version 2.4  Nov. 18, 2008

Version 2.5  Feb. 20, 2010
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: JimH on April 29, 2008, 06:50:01 pm
Thanks.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mobyfrag on May 09, 2008, 05:24:32 am
Thank you so much cncb :)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on May 12, 2008, 09:07:25 am
You're welcome.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on September 12, 2008, 05:05:51 am
I'm very fond of this gadget - thanks for it!
There's only one thing I don't get: how can I edit the code in the properties so that I can see some additional information in the basic screen? So I don't mean the screen which I can make pop up by double clicking the lower part. I'd like to see in the lower part Title by Artist (Date). I don't get that date right.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on September 12, 2008, 04:19:45 pm
There's only one thing I don't get: how can I edit the code in the properties so that I can see some additional information in the basic screen? So I don't mean the screen which I can make pop up by double clicking the lower part. I'd like to see in the lower part Title by Artist (Date). I don't get that date right.

Try a slash in front of the parentheses like so:

Code: [Select]
If( IsEqual([Media Type],Audio), <i>[Name]<//i> by [Artist] /([Date]/), [Name]<br>[Date] )
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on September 15, 2008, 01:24:26 am
Thanks for your suggestion. I'm getting there now! But... When I put down that line all requested info is shown with the line "If IsEqual[Media Type],Audio," in front of that. As when I leave the date-code away it's shown properly.

This is what I've programmed now:

If IsEqual[Media Type],Audio, >[Name]<//i> by [Artist] /([date]/), [Name]
[Date] )

Can you give me another suggestion please?

(Edit): oops, I found it! The ( and the ) signs got lost when copy'ing pasting the code to NotePad... (How? Well, I use 'SendToNotePad' for pasting a clipboard-time to NotePad - apparantly it's got a bug). I double-checked with your suggested code and now it's works just fine!

Thanks!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: steveklein on September 20, 2008, 12:25:33 am

i just wanted to say fantastic idea!

i think i have a few suggestions for improvement. mainly, just more customization.

is there any way to make this gadget larger? i would really like to see the Song Title, Artist, Album Title, Year, Genre, maybe some other stuff without having the flyout. Can the number of vertical pixels that the gadget take up not be edited?

also, any way to change the countdown till the next song to some other field? it would be nice if we would see a countup if we wanted. or even a [time elapsed/[total time] format.

what about the cover art? any way to make it fill the whole gadget? what about get rid of that part altogether?

could even have 2 instances running to where the top instance was cover art, and the second instance was able to contain many more lines of text. although i think this would be a bandaid and the better solution would be to change the size of the gadget and just give full costomization as to how many lines of text you want, the size of the cover art, etc.

very nice though!!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on September 21, 2008, 02:50:33 am
a suggestion? hope!?!

When playing a song, a spot to run over to computer and click 5 stars!  for quick tagging! so we dont have to open up in standard view :D
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on September 21, 2008, 08:13:05 am
is there any way to make this gadget larger? i would really like to see the Song Title, Artist, Album Title, Year, Genre, maybe some other stuff without having the flyout. Can the number of vertical pixels that the gadget take up not be edited?

also, any way to change the countdown till the next song to some other field? it would be nice if we would see a countup if we wanted. or even a [time elapsed/[total time] format.

what about the cover art? any way to make it fill the whole gadget? what about get rid of that part altogether?

You can customize the gadget by editing the .css, .js, and .html files in any way you want.  Note that it wasn't totally straightforward to get everything to look and behave correctly in terms of the height of the gadget so this might be a little tricky.  In any case, I will definitely keep your suggestions in mind if I do an update of the gadget.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on September 21, 2008, 08:15:05 am
When playing a song, a spot to run over to computer and click 5 stars!  for quick tagging! so we dont have to open up in standard view :D

This is already available.  Open the flyout by clicking the text on the bottom half of the gadget and you will see the clickable rating.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on September 21, 2008, 10:54:07 am
WOW I Didnt know that was Editable. lol

Sweet!

Thanks Alot !!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: steveklein on September 21, 2008, 09:44:44 pm
You can customize the gadget by editing the .css, .js, and .html files in any way you want.  Note that it wasn't totally straightforward to get everything to look and behave correctly in terms of the height of the gadget so this might be a little tricky.  In any case, I will definitely keep your suggestions in mind if I do an update of the gadget.

Yeah, I've been messing around with the editing of the editing of the gadget. Really, I'm just trying to increase the height of the gadget to 200. Editing everything else seems pretty straightforward. However, when I increase the height to 200, the blue background image file doesn't extend past where the original gadget ended, so it doesn't work. I've tried to figure out where to specify for the background image to fill the gadget, but have been unable to do so thus far.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on September 22, 2008, 07:59:21 am
Yeah, I've been messing around with the editing of the editing of the gadget. Really, I'm just trying to increase the height of the gadget to 200.

I'll try to do a quick update to the gadget that allows the height to be edited in the Options screen.  I will post it here soon.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on September 26, 2008, 11:02:38 am
i've been playing with the Gadget and wanna say again i love it!

I'm wondering if there is anyway for me to edit the flyout window?

I would LOVE to be able to edit the playlist in the fly out.. is this possible by any chance?

I have my playlists set up as MUSIC then genre playlists, then i have  aseperate playlist called cool mixes with genres under it.. And i often listen to music and have the tag box open in jriver and when i hear a song i like i open playlists and tag it under appopriate coolmix genre.. anyway to incorporate a playlist dropdown in the gadget flyout so i dont have to open jriver?

Thanks for any suggestions.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on September 27, 2008, 03:52:38 pm
I have an update ready that should satisfy most of the requests (see the first post).  However, I can't seem to upload the attachment - I get a "attachments not writable" error.  Can a moderator help me out?  Thanks.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: JimH on September 27, 2008, 03:58:32 pm
Please mail it to bob at jriver with a link to this thread.  Thanks.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on September 28, 2008, 05:04:48 pm
will gadget update be in this post\topic?  ty
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on September 28, 2008, 07:05:37 pm
will gadget update be in this post\topic?  ty

Yes, as soon as I can upload the attachment.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: bob on September 29, 2008, 12:48:47 pm
You should be able to upload attachments now.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on September 29, 2008, 03:05:56 pm
Thanks.  The file is available for download in the first post again.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on September 29, 2008, 03:12:21 pm
SWEEEEET!!!

You managed to make the ULTIMATE GADGET :)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: eba on September 30, 2008, 02:10:43 pm
Thanks for this cncb, been using it since v1.0 and it's great :)

Just one thing, maybe I'm the only one but I always dislike how it maximizes MC upon connection (and with the latest version, also it seems whenever any settings are changed - seems to keep trying to reconnect).  I've been stopping it doing this by commenting out a line in jrmc.js:

Code: [Select]
...
if( jrmc != null)
    {
        // DON'T Show the MC interface
        // jrmc.ShowProgram( 1);
...

Like I say, maybe just me, but I find it far more useful like this :)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on September 30, 2008, 02:16:28 pm
hi eba.. how do i go about editing that? which proggy do i use? and where is the file i need to edit please?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: StFeder on September 30, 2008, 02:28:16 pm
Thanks for this cncb, been using it since v1.0 and it's great :)

Just one thing, maybe I'm the only one but I always dislike how it maximizes MC upon connection (and with the latest version, also it seems whenever any settings are changed - seems to keep trying to reconnect).  I've been stopping it doing this by commenting out a line in jrmc.js:

Code: [Select]
...
if( jrmc != null)
    {
        // DON'T Show the MC interface
        // jrmc.ShowProgram( 1);
...

Like I say, maybe just me, but I find it far more useful like this :)

Sounds like an usefull improvement! I also like the gadet very much, but stoped using it because of this. I'll try to add this line for me to! Will I lose some function doing this??
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on September 30, 2008, 03:02:36 pm
The way it works now is most useful for me.  It doesn't connect until you click the button on the toolbar to do so.  It shows the MC UI when it connects so you can choose something to play.  It reconnects after you change settings in case you set up a "startup playlist".  It doesn't seem like you would be changing settings that much once you have it setup the way you want it and you can just leave the MC UI open while you are getting the settings right.

In any case, you can comment out that line with no bad effects - all it does is show the MC UI.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: eba on September 30, 2008, 03:04:23 pm
maybe I'm the only one
obviously not  :D

My hack:

Extract MC.Gadget.zip

edit the following file with, e.g., notepad
en-US\js\jrmc.js

Search for the line jrmc.ShowProgram( 1); then add // to the front to comment it out (the first instance only)

Save

Rezip everything back to MC.Gadget.zip (make sure you have en-US etc. directly in the zip, not in a MC.Gadget sub-folder)

Rename the zip to MC.Gadget and install :)

Will I lose some function doing this??
Not that I've noticed, though I'll let cncb answer for sure!  :-X ...which he has done while I was writing :)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on September 30, 2008, 03:43:09 pm
The options screen is getting a little crowded but I could add whether or not to show MC at connection as another option if there is enough interest.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on September 30, 2008, 03:51:58 pm
youve done more then enough cncb.. but can i pry a bit?

Been sorting fonts all day long.. and been using the sidebar gadget, and listening to tunes and selecting the playlists add to.. any way by chance... to make it as you did with ratings? where we can select more then one add to at a time? If i knew how to do this stuff i would!  But it would make it alot easier i think for those of us that do alot of tagging..

example when i choose my playlists sometimes the songs i hear go into more then just one coolmix playlist.. some goto party mix, some roadtrip mix, some work outmix, some one hit wonders etc..  Be GREAT to be able to select multiple playlists at once. instead of having to keep hitting the add to link..

Hope i'm not asking to much.. But it's a great tool ya got going on here!! so just giving tips on things i'd like.

Thanks for all the work you have done thus far. MUCH Appreciated.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on October 01, 2008, 08:56:31 am
Been sorting fonts all day long.. and been using the sidebar gadget, and listening to tunes and selecting the playlists add to.. any way by chance... to make it as you did with ratings? where we can select more then one add to at a time? If i knew how to do this stuff i would!  But it would make it alot easier i think for those of us that do alot of tagging..

I should be able to do something here.  I am thinking about adding some kind of "Done/Close" button on the playlists screen so that you can keep it open to select multiple playlists until you are done.  Also some indication of what playlists a track is already in would probably be useful.  Would this be sufficient?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on October 01, 2008, 12:03:24 pm
beyond sufficient :)

thanks alot.. yea just a pause or lock or something would help immensly .. so one can choose multiple lists:)

I have tons of music, and i often listen to my Music playlist (which is all my genres) and when i hear a cool tune, then i run to comp and i put it into appopriate playlists.

Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: steveklein on October 01, 2008, 01:14:54 pm
wow, i just wanted to say thanks a ton. i am at work but can't wait to test out the 2.1 gadget. i anticipate it will be a big improvement over an already fantastic gadget.

Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on October 02, 2008, 10:11:31 am
this would be neat to incorporate into your gadget as well...  A mini display while playing vids, I've used it for months and it works flawlessly only down side is when ya grab there gadget and pull it off the side bar the window is still kinda small would be cool if they would have made it resizable... not sure if this would be possible with your gadget... but be cool to see vids from jriver on side bar and choose cool feeds like they have done ;D

 http://gallery.live.com/liveItemDetail.aspx?li=835ebb3c-f3ef-4652-966a-6d554e859484&bt=1&pl=1
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on October 02, 2008, 01:51:37 pm
this would be neat to incorporate into your gadget as well...  A mini display while playing vids, I've used it for months and it works flawlessly only down side is when ya grab there gadget and pull it off the side bar the window is still kinda small would be cool if they would have made it resizable... not sure if this would be possible with your gadget... but be cool to see vids from jriver on side bar and choose cool feeds like they have done

I tried before to embed the MC visualization window in the gadget but I don't think there is any way to do it.  It is not ideal but you can get the MC video display in the sidebar.  Right-click the Display Window and select "Detach Display".  Resize the window to be really small and drag it to your sidebar like in the attached picture (the screen capture does not show the playing video but it was displayed).

Title: v 2.2
Post by: cncb on October 06, 2008, 10:16:32 pm
I posted an update with an option to not show the MC UI when connecting and to allow multiple playlist additions.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: eba on October 07, 2008, 03:06:45 am
Excellent, Thank You!  :D ;D
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: lynott on October 09, 2008, 04:27:44 am
Hi!

Is it possible to format the text string to display this:

Name
Album
Artist

instead of "name" by "artist"

Thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on October 09, 2008, 09:38:37 pm
Yes, replace [Name] by [Artist] with this:

[Name]<br//>[Album]<br//>[Artist]
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on October 09, 2008, 11:00:02 pm
hi cncb

out of curiosity.. are you using this with 13?

Have you noticed right click lock ups with it?

Since i've installed 13 the previous version and most recent i've noticed my right click locks up and i cant use it within 13.. and EVERYTIME it locks up and when i right click i notice sidebar flash on and off. And when i close jriver gadget, then the right click in 13 works as normal and always shows up.

Note.. i do NOT have 12 installed on the machine this happening on so i cant test it with 12.

Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: lynott on October 10, 2008, 06:02:03 am
Yes, replace [Name] by [Artist] with this:

[Name]<br//>[Album]<br//>[Artist]

Works like a charm. Thanks a lot :)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on October 10, 2008, 03:13:40 pm
out of curiosity.. are you using this with 13?

Haven't tried 13 yet and don't plan to for a while - sorry.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on October 10, 2008, 03:50:45 pm
ok ty for reply ;)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Doof on October 20, 2008, 12:36:08 am
I keep losing track of this thread and everytime I come back, I find this gadget just getting better and better. :)

I do have a couple of questions, though.

1. When I set Cover art/image display to "Small" it works fine and shows the correct cover art. When I set it to "Full gadget" it only displays a generic MC file icon. Any idea why that would be?

2. When it's set to "Full gadget" any chance the song/playback properties could show when you hover the mouse over it?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on October 20, 2008, 07:57:55 pm
Since i've installed 13 the previous version and most recent i've noticed my right click locks up and i cant use it within 13.. and EVERYTIME it locks up and when i right click i notice sidebar flash on and off. And when i close jriver gadget, then the right click in 13 works as normal and always shows up.

I just moved to 13 and I don't notice any right-click problems.  Is there a particular area where you see it?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on October 20, 2008, 08:01:29 pm
very unpredictable, and hard to trace down except when closing the gadget, then closing the sidebar.

happens often when clicking on any file, edit, help, tools, etc.. and almost everytime when tagging changinging filenames etc.. after closing gadget works for a few more songs then i have to close sidebar then works flawlessly.. then i reopen sidebar and gadget to test again.. and right click options disappear again at times.. very spuratic... no idea what it is..
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on October 20, 2008, 08:13:55 pm
1. When I set Cover art/image display to "Small" it works fine and shows the correct cover art. When I set it to "Full gadget" it only displays a generic MC file icon. Any idea why that would be?

2. When it's set to "Full gadget" any chance the song/playback properties could show when you hover the mouse over it?

1) I think I see the problem with this one although I can't explain the behavior you're seeing or why it seems to work for me  :).  In any case, I will hopefully include a fix in the next update.

2) This should be possible.  Maybe I could add another display option to be "full" except switch to "small" when hovering?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: lynott on October 21, 2008, 06:31:20 am
Quote
Maybe I could add another display option to be "full" except switch to "small" when hovering?

That sounds like a great idea.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Doof on October 21, 2008, 01:33:10 pm
Yeah, that would be great.

Actually, another option for full thumbnail with overlaid text would be cool too.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on October 21, 2008, 04:03:39 pm
Actually, another option for full thumbnail with overlaid text would be cool too.

I'm not sure about this one.  I tried it and the text is not really legible.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on October 23, 2008, 05:11:19 pm
Actually, another option for full thumbnail with overlaid text would be cool too.

Well, I can't really read the text but I didn't see any reason to not add it as an option.  I just posted an update with this and the full/small hover option.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: lynott on October 24, 2008, 05:29:19 am
Seems to work just perfect :)

However.... is it possible to reverse the action?  Keep the small (details) display on top and show full cover on mouse over.

Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on October 25, 2008, 02:37:02 pm
However.... is it possible to reverse the action?  Keep the small (details) display on top and show full cover on mouse over.

Yes - if you only had requested that a few days earlier :).  I will try to add it if there is a reason to do another update.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Doof on October 25, 2008, 11:44:52 pm
It just keeps getting better and better. :)

The full-size cover art is working now. And thanks for the additional hover mode.

The hover is a little flaky sometimes, though. Not sure if it's just me seeing it or not. Sometimes if I hover over it, it works great. Other times it doesn't seem to want to switch. Still other times, it switches on the hover just fine but then gets stuck when I stop hovering. If it's only me, I wouldn't worry about it too much. :P
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on October 26, 2008, 11:03:30 am
I just gave this gadget another look after several months not having it installed. Great improvements! Thanks for all your work on this!

On thing I noticed is that the "Tag Details" info sometimes extends beyond the viewable area where you can't see all the info. If the song is in a lot of playlists, for instance, the "Add to..." link is cut off. I would love to add lyrics here, but they're always going to be cut off. A scroll bar in this screen would be a good solution.

Edit: I remembered what used to bug me about this gadget... whenever it is running, MC does weird things with its focus. Like, if I want to edit something in MC, I have to click on the taskbar button first instead of just clicking anywhere in the MC window. Is there any way to get around this?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: eba on October 27, 2008, 01:46:52 pm
Edit: I remembered what used to bug me about this gadget... whenever it is running, MC does weird things with its focus. Like, if I want to edit something in MC, I have to click on the taskbar button first instead of just clicking anywhere in the MC window. Is there any way to get around this?

It's the gadget that does this? :o
This has been driving me crazy for ages, thought it was just some weird thing on my computer...posted about it here http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=46383 but didn't get anywhere.
Not sure I ever considered that it was the gadget responsible...will be sad to say goodbye to it if it is though  :(
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on October 27, 2008, 02:03:56 pm
Eba is this similiar to what your talking about?

My jriver still locks up on me to where i have to close sidebar gadget then close and EXIT vista sidebar to get my right clicks and edit tags back...

hi cncb

out of curiosity.. are you using this with 13?

Have you noticed right click lock ups with it?

Since i've installed 13 the previous version and most recent i've noticed my right click locks up and i cant use it within 13.. and EVERYTIME it locks up and when i right click i notice sidebar flash on and off. And when i close jriver gadget, then the right click in 13 works as normal and always shows up.

Note.. i do NOT have 12 installed on the machine this happening on so i cant test it with 12.


Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on October 27, 2008, 02:09:16 pm
It's most definitely the gadget. I had this problem when I used the gadget on my old system. Last spring, I upgraded my computer and went to Vista64, but I didn't reinstall the gadget until yesterday and the focus problem is back. You can probably verify by temporarily turning off the gadget.

I was hoping that there is something in the settings that could work around the issue, because I really enjoy the gadget but the focus thing is quite annoying.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on October 27, 2008, 02:11:00 pm
pardon my ignorance.. but so i dont keep asking the same issue. is the issue i just described called focus?

thanks and sorry for not knowing the term
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on October 27, 2008, 02:29:55 pm
pardon my ignorance.. but so i dont keep asking the same issue. is the issue i just described called focus?

By "focus" I mean making the MC12 window active. When this gadget is installed, the MC12 window appears to be active, but certain things won't work as they should until you click on the taskbar button... like editing fields, right clicking, changing a rating, etc. Once you click the taskbar button, MC behaves normally until another window becomes active and MC loses focus again.

Your issue sounds different since you say it is locking up and that you have to exit the sidebar to resolve it.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on October 27, 2008, 02:35:06 pm
i've never tried clicking on the taskbar, will see if that works... i just know to fix mine so icould right click edit tags, gt menus back. i figured out i had to close gadget.. then it would work a for  abit then i would try editing a tag and no text would input but the sidebar would flash upon every keystroke. but once i went to taskbar exit sidebar then it would works flawlessly.

thanks for clearing that up for me. will be a good test for me when i run into the issue again.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on October 27, 2008, 05:05:11 pm
The hover is a little flaky sometimes, though. Not sure if it's just me seeing it or not. Sometimes if I hover over it, it works great. Other times it doesn't seem to want to switch. Still other times, it switches on the hover just fine but then gets stuck when I stop hovering. If it's only me, I wouldn't worry about it too much. :P

It seems to work pretty consistently for me.  I have seen it not switch back to "full" a few times after I leave the gadget but this seems to be a rare occurrence and I just have to move the mouse over again to fix it.
Title: Re: Focus Issues
Post by: cncb on October 27, 2008, 05:10:30 pm
I have noticed focus issues on a few occasions but it is not something I can consistently reproduce.  The gadget is not in really control of this - it seems like it might be a side effect of using the SDK.  Have you tried the new Option to not "Show MC On Connect" to see if it makes a difference?  Try to not launch/show the MC UI from the gadget and see if it helps.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on October 27, 2008, 05:19:58 pm
I have "show MC on connect" unchecked and "connect at startup" checked. Wasn't sure if the second option is required if I already run Media Server at startup.

It's consistent for me, but isn't always obvious until you try to edit something.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on October 27, 2008, 05:26:49 pm
I have "show MC on connect" unchecked and "connect at startup" checked. Wasn't sure if the second option is required if I already run Media Server at startup.

It's consistent for me, but isn't always obvious until you try to edit something.

"Connect at startup" just means that when the gadget starts up (i.e. the computer starts up) the gadget will automatically connect to MC instead of manually having to press the gadget "toolbar" button to do so.

What are you trying to edit?  I can press buttons on the gadget with MC not in focus and then have no problems going to MC and editing a photo caption in the Tag window, for example.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on October 27, 2008, 06:05:53 pm
What are you trying to edit?  I can press buttons on the gadget with MC not in focus and then have no problems going to MC and editing a photo caption in the Tag window, for example.

If I alt-tab to activate the window or click on the taskbar button, everything works fine. But try doing the following just by clicking on the window, and it doesn't work.

Some examples:
click on "stars" to change rating, either in the details grid, or in the now playing display.
click on a field in the tag action window and try to edit something.
click on a field in the details grid, then click again to make it editable, then try typing.
click on a song to select, then try to bring up the right click menu.

Without the gadget, I can do all of the above just by clicking on a visible part of the window to activate it.
Title: Re: Focus Issues
Post by: cncb on October 27, 2008, 07:05:07 pm
Ok, here is the focus behavior I get with MC13 and the gadget.  MC13 stays behind another open window if I just click an open area in MC like you said.  However, I can bring MC to the front and "focused" by right-clicking the top title bar/toolbar or just by clicking on one of the top menus.  Right-clicking on other areas that brings up a menu also gives MC focus but doesn't bring it to the front until I click on an open area to cancel the context menu.  Hopefully this is what you are seeing as well and one of these is an acceptable workaround.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on October 27, 2008, 07:08:51 pm
Those methods don't work in MC12, unfortunately. :-(
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on October 27, 2008, 07:25:24 pm
Those methods don't work in MC12, unfortunately. :-(

Sorry.  I can't test MC12 to see if I get the same behavior.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: eba on October 27, 2008, 07:39:24 pm
One of the symptons I get is MC randomly seeming to lose focus, eg. when selecting something from a right click menu.
i.e. I'll select a song, right click, add to playing now, and suddenly Firefox appears in front, or whatever else I might be using that was previously behind MC.  Sometimes this'll happen several times in a row.  It's not consistent, therefore is always difficult to test.

And then, like Sue has explained, if nothing is there to appear above MC, it's just a case of MC refusing to take focus properly.  Items can be selected, but, for example, the play links under albums don't appear, right click doesn't work, keyboard shortcuts don't work, etc.  The only way to focus MC properly is to click the taskbar button.

I've had exactly the same problem with MC12 and 13 (I'm now on 13).
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on October 27, 2008, 08:19:02 pm
ok.. i can confirm your temp fix with this as well

was moving filesand taggin them.and then right click stopped on me, then i closed sidebar gadget and it worked for about a minute, then right click didnt work again so i exited sidebar then it worked for about 30 seconds, then right click stopped again, and i tried the clicking on taskbar. everytime i'd click on taskbar right click would work then once i tried right clicking again right click wouldnt work until i hit the taskbar again.

maybe this should be posted in 12 and 13 forum so others see it?

Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Berto on November 02, 2008, 02:25:15 pm
I downloaded MC.gadget.zip, renamed the file by deleting the zip-extension and double-clicked the remaining MC.gadget.
And then nothing happened. So no gadget.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 06, 2008, 12:36:34 pm
I downloaded MC.gadget.zip, renamed the file by deleting the zip-extension and double-clicked the remaining MC.gadget.
And then nothing happened. So no gadget.

I'm not sure why you would not see the install dialog.  If you are using a non-US English locale/setup in Vista then I think you have to copy the content of the "en-US" subfolder to an appropriately named subfolder for your locale.  This might have to be done in the zip file before installation?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Berto on November 06, 2008, 12:42:45 pm
I'm not sure why you would not see the install dialog.  If you are using a non-US English locale/setup in Vista then I think you have to copy the content of the "en-US" subfolder to an appropriately named subfolder for your locale.  This might have to be done in the zip file before installation?
Sorry. I do see the installation dialog. I click install, the installation dialog disappears and then nothing happens. And there is no MC gadget in C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\Gadgets.

Update:
I renamed the folder en-US to nl-NL before installation and that did the trick. Thanks.
 
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 07, 2008, 03:04:06 pm
hi cncb.. and all with the focus issue... I posted thi elsewhere today after the update of 13.. and issue was still there, i rebooted machine and turned off the jriver gadget and i have been editing tags all day with no problems, and when ever i click on j river it goes on top of other windows.. so all j river issues were fixed when i didnt use the gadget.

Can anything be done about this cncb? I love this gadget and would love to use it.. but for now it just locks me up to much.. especially when editing tags etc.. see my thread from this morning....

Ty for everything!

  http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=49092.0
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 07, 2008, 10:12:41 pm
hi cncb.. and all with the focus issue... I posted thi elsewhere today after the update of 13.. and issue was still there, i rebooted machine and turned off the jriver gadget and i have been editing tags all day with no problems, and when ever i click on j river it goes on top of other windows.. so all j river issues were fixed when i didnt use the gadget.

The gadget does not do anything special in terms of focus or interacting with MC - it just uses the SDK which seems to be causing problems on your PC.  Sorry, I'm not sure why you are having the focus problems (I don't have that behavior).
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 07, 2008, 10:20:11 pm
so... im just stuck with out it?  :(
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: JimH on November 08, 2008, 06:47:03 am
Are you using the same OS?  Same settings?  Current version?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 08, 2008, 09:41:53 am
windows vista 32, 4 gigs ram, 512 nvidia card, amd athlon 64X2 dual core processor 6000+ 3.01Gz,    jriver 13 verion 13.0.69 not sure what version gadget is there? the about i cannot find on it.  i have he vista dream scenes turne off, and have als shut off objectdock bar.

settings please see pics

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c36/Xtacybyme/gadget1.jpg)

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c36/Xtacybyme/gadget2.jpg)

ty

Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 11, 2008, 12:51:59 pm
Just An Update...today is tuesday and have used jriver consistantly. without the sidebar gadget since Friday.. and i have ediited tags, opened closed numerous times. and no focus loss... so it is Def a sidebar gadget issue :(  hoping this gets figured out sometime, really loved the gadget and will tough to live without.

Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on November 11, 2008, 01:40:15 pm
I too have ditched the gadget once again due to this focus issue. It's handy, but not worth the frustration it causes when you need to edit in the main MC window.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: JimH on November 11, 2008, 01:42:11 pm
Craig,
We'll try to help if we can.  Let us know.

Jim
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 11, 2008, 01:43:44 pm
Not sure about others, but i know i WOULD pay for this gadget!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 11, 2008, 07:10:58 pm
Can you try the test version of the gadget that I attached to this post?  It will look like it is still trying to connect and not update the track information or play state but the control buttons will still work.  See if you still have focus problems.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on November 11, 2008, 07:21:38 pm
I don't have the focus problem with this version of the gadget.
Can you try the test version of the gadget that I attached to this post?  It will look like it is still trying to connect and not update the track information or play state but the control buttons will still work.  See if you still have focus problems.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 13, 2008, 01:24:53 pm
I don't have the focus problem with this version of the gadget.

Thanks.  Anyone else?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 13, 2008, 01:45:43 pm
ive been doing alot of tagging and have had the sidebar gadget down since.. no lockups focus issues at all. ill be done tagging in a couple hours, will reboot, and then run for a day and try to tag with new version....

sorry for delay in reply.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: eba on November 13, 2008, 05:29:03 pm
Thanks.  Anyone else?

I have been trying it and had no problems, although admittedly it has always been a somewhat intermittent problem on mine anyway.
Sorry, a bit lacking in testing time at the moment!

Thanks :)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 14, 2008, 04:59:25 pm
tried this version of the gadget it says connecting,  doesnt show track info or the popup to choose 5 stars etc.. controls do work and no focus issues. :)

ty for working on this!!!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Magic_Randy on November 15, 2008, 09:04:59 am
I just tried it for the first time. Very nice...
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 16, 2008, 08:41:15 am
Ok, those with the focus problems please go back to the regular gadget.  Connect the gadget to MC but make sure you don't play anything in MC and see if you still have the focus problems.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on November 16, 2008, 11:56:47 am
Ok, those with the focus problems please go back to the regular gadget.  Connect the gadget to MC but make sure you don't play anything in MC and see if you still have the focus problems.

When I read this, MC was already playing and the gadget was in my sidebar but not connected (I disabled it from connecting on startup several days ago). When I read your message, I stopped MC and connected the gadget but did not start playing anything. No focus problem, switching back and forth to MC and editing. So then I started playing music again in MC and left the gadget connected. Still no focus issues.

Hope that gives you something useful to nip this in the bud.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 16, 2008, 12:16:39 pm
When I read this, MC was already playing and the gadget was in my sidebar but not connected (I disabled it from connecting on startup several days ago). When I read your message, I stopped MC and connected the gadget but did not start playing anything. No focus problem, switching back and forth to MC and editing. So then I started playing music again in MC and left the gadget connected. Still no focus issues.

So you only have focus issues when you connect the gadget and MC is already playing something?  Or is it due to the MC program being already open and running (instead of the gadget launching/starting MC)?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on November 16, 2008, 02:06:13 pm
I think it is this:

Or is it due to the MC program being already open and running (instead of the gadget launching/starting MC)?

Here is how I am able to replicate the problem:

Close MC window and exit via media server tray icon.
Make sure no MC task is running via task manager and gadget is showing "not connected."
Connect gadget.
Wait until gadget shows stopped.
Start playing via play button on gadget.
Show Media Center via Tray Icon.
Focus problem occurs.

As far as I can tell, if MC is started *before* the gadget connects, then everything is okay--I have not extensively tested this, but I think that's the issue. I also tried it using the same steps as above, but starting playback in the MC window instead of in the gadget and it did the same thing (focus problem).

I normally run media server at startup, but I am using WinPatrol to do a delayed start. So when I had "connect at startup" enabled in the gadget, it was launching the MC process before my delayed startup process could run and I would have the focus problem.

Now that I changed the gadget to not connect on startup, it allows media server to start the MC process on its own, and then connecting the gadget to an already running MC does not trigger the problem.

Maybe an option in the gadget for "Connect when MC is running" would be better than having the gadget launch MC?

This is all with MC12, by the way.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 16, 2008, 09:26:31 pm
If it turns out to be solved by having MC open before connecting the gadget then this should be pretty easy to fix.  Please everyone do some more testing to see if this is indeed the case.

Edit: This may be it.  When I connect the gadget and MC is not running I get the minor focus weirdness where I have to right-click MC to bring it to the front when it is behind another window.  If I connect when MC is already running a normal, single click focuses MC and brings it to the front.  I hope this solves it for everyone else as I know how to fix this easily.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 18, 2008, 03:20:08 pm
I posted an update that makes sure MC is running before the gadget connects.  I hope this resolves the focus issues everyone is having.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: eba on November 18, 2008, 04:49:05 pm
Thank You!  :D
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 19, 2008, 07:30:12 pm
WORKS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TY TY TY TY!!  ;D
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on November 19, 2008, 08:09:37 pm
Thanks! Also noticed the scroll bar in the tag details... much appreciated!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 20, 2008, 11:12:42 pm
I'm glad it seems to be working for all of you now.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: BullishDad on November 25, 2008, 06:54:03 pm
I would like to try this, but I can't seem to install it.  I've been using a Google Sidebar.  Does that have to be replaced with the Vista Sidebar?

From the opening post, I've downloaded MC.gadget.zip.  This shows as a compressed folder call MC.gadget.  I've renamed this, but it stays as a zipped folder.  Then, I've double clicked and files are extracted.  I've tried double clicking on what's been extracted, but nothing runs an install program.

I realize this is probably basic stuff to people familiar with using a sidebar, but I need help to get this going.  Thanks.

Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 25, 2008, 09:29:27 pm
I would like to try this, but I can't seem to install it.  I've been using a Google Sidebar.  Does that have to be replaced with the Vista Sidebar?

This only works with the sidebar built into Vista.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 25, 2008, 09:41:40 pm
goto desktop make new folder, open new folder goto tools folder options, view uncheck hide extensions for known file types,hit apply ok MC.Gadget will turn into MC.Gadget.Rar  then right click MC.Gadget.Rar and choose rename then just delete the .Rar.. and it will turn into MC.Gadget

also i suggest (going back to tools folder options, view uncheck hide extensions for known file types,hit apply ok) once its turned into a gadget, go back and change it to hide.. if ya want to hide your extensions.

Hope This Helps.. and like cncb said it works with vista sidebar.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: BullishDad on November 25, 2008, 09:56:45 pm
Thanks cnbc and xtacbyme.  I had a feeling the Vista Sidebar was required, but I wouldn't have figured out the uncheck hide file extensions part without some help.

Got it installed and played around for a minute.  This looks like nice.  Just what I was looking for.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on December 12, 2008, 10:07:11 am
np BullishDad.

cncb.. one thing i'd like to edit if possible?

can i edit the expressions for playing now text to show my ratings? i'd like to be able to see my stars cause alot of files are already 5 star'd and being i have  alarge library hard to remember if 5 star'd or not yet.. if it would be visible in playing now text i wouldnt have to click text to see if it was rated or not! :) is there an expresssion i could put in to see the ratings at all times?

Ty
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on December 12, 2008, 10:44:40 am
You can use [rating] but it will show it as a number and not stars. My expression looks like this:

Code: [Select]
<font face="st gothic cond" size="2">If( IsEqual([Media Type],Audio), [Name] /([rating]/) by <b>[Artist]<//b> from [Album] /([Date]/), [Name])</font>
Sometimes it chops off the album name, but it's good enough for me.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on December 12, 2008, 10:55:11 am
thanks fo reply mesue..

is there a way to show stars?

and if not... would i just copy and replace your string over the string that is in there already?
ty
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on December 12, 2008, 11:08:31 am
Don't know about showing stars. You can either replace your code with mine, or edit yours to add [rating] in there somewhere. Play around with it. I would keep a copy of what you have before replacing it, in case you don't like it.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on December 12, 2008, 11:11:31 am
ok...ty :)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on December 12, 2008, 11:45:52 am
ok i been playing with it :) looks good :)

is there a way to add color to words? example rating and stars could be in black, red, yellow etc... text?

<font face="st gothic cond" size="2">If( IsEqual([Media Type],Audio), [Name] /([rating]/) Stars by >[Artist]<//b> from [Album] /([Date]/), [Name])</font>

ty
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on December 12, 2008, 12:14:55 pm
if you wanted the whole thing in red, you would add

color="red"

inside the <font> tag.

If you want only parts of it in color, add <font color="mycolor"></font> and put the parts you want in color in between the ><

Color codes here: http://webdesign.about.com/od/colorcharts/l/bl_colors.htm

It's all basic HTML: http://webdesign.about.com/od/htmltags/p/bltags_font.htm
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on December 12, 2008, 12:20:36 pm
ty mesue yet to learrn tml.. thanks for html link as well
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on December 12, 2008, 01:59:50 pm
well im doing something wrong here.. i can get and keep the song name white and turn the (5) Stars gold but it turns everything after (5) Stars gold too i have tried it like this but no go..

<font face="st gothic cond" size="2">If( IsEqual([Media Type],Audio), [Name] /<font color="#ffcc33">([rating]/) Stars</font> <font face="st gothic cond" size="2">by >[Artist]<//b> from [Album] /([Date]/), [Name])</font>


<font face="st gothic cond" size="2">If( IsEqual([Media Type],Audio), [Name] /<font color="#ffcc33">([rating]/) Stars</font> by >[Artist]<//b> from [Album] /([Date]/), [Name])</font>


(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c36/Xtacybyme/Capture-2.jpg)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: mesue on December 12, 2008, 02:19:46 pm
Try this:
Code: [Select]
<font size="2">If( IsEqual([Media Type],Audio), [Name] /<font color="#ffcc33">([rating]/) Stars</font> <font  size ="2" color="white">by <b>[Artist]<//b> from [Album] /([Date]/), [Name])</font>

I think the forum was eating some of the code. Hopefully putting it in code tags will prevent that. I took out the font face attribute since you would need that specific font on your system for it to do anything, and I can tell from your screen shot that you don't have it.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on December 12, 2008, 02:24:29 pm
Amazing.. ty it worked... ok time to study the diffrences here and play.. ty for your help
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on January 02, 2009, 03:02:17 pm
Curious if there is anyway to add keywords checking ability to the sidebar gadget?

ty
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: gappie on January 28, 2009, 12:02:49 pm
since i was always on xp i could not try this gadget. but i have windows 7 now on a machine, and this works great on it..
nicely done.
thanks
 :)
gab
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on January 28, 2009, 12:11:18 pm
Curious if there is anyway to add keywords checking ability to the sidebar gadget?

Sorry I missed this before.  It is possible to list keywords in the tag flyout but being able to change (add/remove) them would take a bit of work (like what was done for playlists).  Sorry, I wouldn't use this feature so I won't be adding it at this time.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on January 28, 2009, 12:14:24 pm
since i was always on xp i could not try this gadget. but i have windows 7 now on a machine, and this works great on it..
nicely done.

Thanks - I'm glad to hear that it is working in Windows 7.  I read somewhere that they removed the ability to dock the sidebar on the side of the screen (with it always on top) and that the gadgets now have to float somewhere on your desktop.  Is this the case (I hope not as I always want to be able to see the gadgets)?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on January 28, 2009, 01:16:35 pm
ok. just thought i'd ask.. thanx for the reply.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: gappie on January 28, 2009, 02:34:29 pm
Thanks - I'm glad to hear that it is working in Windows 7.  I read somewhere that they removed the ability to dock the sidebar on the side of the screen (with it always on top) and that the gadgets now have to float somewhere on your desktop.  Is this the case (I hope not as I always want to be able to see the gadgets)?
there is indeed no side bar. you can place the gadgets where ever you want. and can set per gadget if it should be always on top. as a test i have your gadget flaoting above ie while typing this the other two are hidden. not to bad, i guess.

 :)
gab
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on January 29, 2009, 01:41:48 pm
there is indeed no side bar. you can place the gadgets where ever you want. and can set per gadget if it should be always on top. as a test i have your gadget flaoting above ie while typing this the other two are hidden. not to bad, i guess.

Well, that is pretty disappointing to me.  One of the main reasons I use the Vista Sidebar instead of the Yahoo Widgets, etc. is that the gadgets can always be visible on the side of my widescreen monitor and maximized windows are not obscured by the gadgets and vice versa.  I really hope they will have an option to still use the sidebar.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: ThoBar on January 29, 2009, 05:49:22 pm
Well, that is pretty disappointing to me.  One of the main reasons I use the Vista Sidebar instead of the Yahoo Widgets, etc. is that the gadgets can always be visible on the side of my widescreen monitor and maximized windows are not obscured by the gadgets and vice versa.  I really hope they will have an option to still use the sidebar.
Windows 7 has it's peek feature which is very useful. Placing gadgets on the desktop, yoiu only need to mouseover the right hand side of the task bar for the desktop to become visible. Moving your mouse away from this hotspot returns your desktop as it was ... no clicking, nice and easy, and no loss of screen-estate for apps.

Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: marko on January 30, 2009, 01:37:12 am
Windows 7 has it's peek feature which is very useful. Placing gadgets on the desktop, yoiu only need to mouseover the right hand side of the task bar for the desktop to become visible. Moving your mouse away from this hotspot returns your desktop as it was ... no clicking, nice and easy, and no loss of screen-estate for apps.


Interesting...
Any idea if that still works if you use a desktop extended to a second monitor (TV) on the right-hand side?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: lynott on February 07, 2009, 06:56:56 am
If the playlist gets too large, the playing time gets cut in half.  Would be nice to have an option not to show playlistinfo (See to the right of the coverart, beneath "playing" in the attatched image)

(http://wassdal.com/stuff/gadget.jpg)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on February 07, 2009, 10:51:53 am
You can reduce the font size of this text so that it will fit.  Open up the following file in Notepad (replace USER with your Windows username):

C:\Users\USER\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Sidebar\Gadgets\MC.Gadget\en-US\css\jrmc.css

Change the 'font-size' in the #STATUS entry to something like this:
Code: [Select]
#STATUS
{
   font-size:11;
   overflow:hidden;
   text-align:center;
}

Save the file in Notepad and reboot.  The text should now fit within the area.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: lynott on February 08, 2009, 07:55:08 am
That worked just fine. Thanks a lot :)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: ThoBar on February 08, 2009, 10:07:30 pm
Interesting...
Any idea if that still works if you use a desktop extended to a second monitor (TV) on the right-hand side?
Yep, it does. (sorry for the slow reply)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: gitcheye on February 19, 2009, 10:53:12 am
I can't find a place to download the vista sidebar gadget.  Can someone send me an active link?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: gappie on February 19, 2009, 11:15:12 am
I can't find a place to download the vista sidebar gadget.  Can someone send me an active link?
its in the first post as an attachment. you must be logged in to see it, i guess.

 :)
gab
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: dlmax63 on April 08, 2009, 05:46:34 pm
cncb,

Thank you so much for this gadget. I've only now installed it and I think it's great.

I use the "full/hover small" display. Is there a way to change the position of the hovering 'play control bar' which appears when I roll over the gadget? I'd like to change it to display the 'play control bar' at the bottom so that it wouldn't cover up text when I hover. I also noticed that if the size in increased, hovering moves the displayed info to the top. Perhaps if the non-hovering image is at the top, I could set the size to be that of 130 + the height of the 'play control bar'. I could then create a background image which is the same color as my sidebar. It would then appear like the space the 'play control bar' occupies pops-up when I hover.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on April 08, 2009, 08:20:23 pm
Hi,

You can move this by editing the following CSS file (replace USERNAME with your current Windows user name):

C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Sidebar\Gadgets\MC.Gadget\en-US\css\jrmc.css


If you look at the 'div#bar' section and increase the 'top:40px' entry it will move the control bar towards the bottom.  You will have to restart the sidebar application or add a new MC gadget to the sidebar to see the changes.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: dlmax63 on April 09, 2009, 06:58:13 pm
thanks, cncb. I'll give it a try
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Marty3d on April 27, 2009, 02:11:37 am
Just found this by accident! :)

My first question: The playback overlay, you use a default one, right? Seem to recognize it from the Slide show gadget. Is it possible to have one with "real" controls, like instead of the "fullscreen" icon, have a more "connectish" one, and perhaps adding volume control to it?

Anyways, thanks for a great gadget! It would be...the second one you actually have some use for ;)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on April 27, 2009, 09:10:34 am
My first question: The playback overlay, you use a default one, right? Seem to recognize it from the Slide show gadget. Is it possible to have one with "real" controls, like instead of the "fullscreen" icon, have a more "connectish" one, and perhaps adding volume control to it?

Yes, the popup controls were "borrowed" from the built-in slideshow gadget.  It should be easy to change any of these icons by just replacing the appropriate image files in C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Sidebar\Gadgets\MC.Gadget\images\.  Adding some new controls would take quite a bit more work.  Does using the volume control in the taskbar not work for you?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Marty3d on April 27, 2009, 10:22:34 am
Sure it does :) I like the ability to change MC's volume only, not system wide. But, it's only a small request, just ignore me if no-one else wants this :)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on April 28, 2009, 07:00:33 am
I like the ability to change MC's volume only, not system wide.

This may not be what you are looking for but if you click on the volume icon in the taskbar and click on "Mixer" I think you can adjust just the volume of MC.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Marty3d on April 28, 2009, 08:03:50 am
I know, it's just laziness...one click instead of three :)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Skeet on May 05, 2009, 12:29:03 pm
This gadget looks great, but I can't get it to work at all. The gadget just shows "Not connected". Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?


Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: dlmax63 on May 05, 2009, 07:14:58 pm
For me, if MC is not running, I position my pointer over the gadget until the control bar appears. Then, click on the connect button which is on the right side of the bar which appears.

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6863/connectbutton.th.jpg)

This will start MC and then the gadget will look like this:

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3017/stopped.png)

You can then hit play (or whatever) and the gadget displays the coverart and info for what's playing.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Skeet on May 06, 2009, 02:26:53 am
Thanks very much, that's sorted it out. MC was running but it wasn't connecting until I hit that button.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: lynott on May 08, 2009, 06:12:04 am
Hi!

What do I have to edit if I want to dsiplay currently playing track number in stead of playlist placement?

EX: Track # 03 (or 3)
in stead of
1742/11095
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on May 08, 2009, 07:08:29 am
What do I have to edit if I want to dsiplay currently playing track number in stead of playlist placement?

You can only put this somewhere in the lower Playing Now text area by placing
Code: [Select]
[Track #] in the text string somewhere.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: sch phase on August 29, 2009, 09:11:07 am
Running v2.4 but when launching from the sidebar, it tries to open mc12.exe and can't find it as I have moved on to mc14.
If i manually run mc14 then the gadget works, anyone know how to tell the gadget to look for 14 and not 12 ? so i can launch from the sidebar ?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: edbro on August 29, 2009, 10:28:27 am
Manually edit jrmc.js with notepad. Replace mc12.exe with mc14.exe.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on August 29, 2009, 10:56:11 am
This gets the current version from the registry so you shouldn't have to edit the .js file.  I am using MC14 and it launches it properly.  Did you uninstall MC12 properly and then reinstall MC14?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: sch phase on August 30, 2009, 04:02:53 am
Thanks Guys
If I had sat and thought about it i could have saved your time, changed mc12.exe to mc14.exe and it works just fine.
As far as I know I had unistalled mc12 correctly, but hey problem solved  :)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: newsposter on September 01, 2009, 07:25:48 pm
A couple of thoughts based on recent experience with other gadgets.  I must admit that i've not (yet) tried the MC gadget so if I am way off base just tell me to sit down and shut up....

Is there a possibliity that JR could provide a genericaly named 'launchMC.exe' stub that would search for the current or most recent MC instance and run that?

Such a launcher might be able to pre-load (into system ram) as much of JR as possible without actually running the GUI.  This could (potentially) make conventional startup much faster as well as making life easier for 'remote control' via gadgets, etc.  Think of a middling stage between a full background library server and the full-blown GUI/Skin manager.  One could say that this is step towards three-tier client/server with a standard socket/streams interface in between.

Library Server (running in background locally or remotely) - Middleware interface layer (pre-loaded into ram, running on demand only)- GUI/Skins/Gadgets (running in foreground or as a gadget or sidebar app).

Alternatively (as a simpler offering), how about a registry setting or environment variable that could provide a quick path to the .exe for startup.

Lastly:  Can MC respond to the generic IWMP API commands??  If not, how about building a shim or enabling an alternate config so gadgets for other player platforms might work with MC?  What about having JR adopt the old Winamp Wasabi Open Source project for media player control?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 11, 2009, 03:18:09 pm
Hi cncb.. being windows 7 is out and this gadget has been out for awhile.. any plans for making it play video or visualizations?

Being i work from home and use gadgets would be great to be able to have a nice small playing now in this gadget and when we double clicked it, it would go full screen or when we minimized the video would play in the gadget.

TY
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 11, 2009, 09:19:51 pm
I looked into it before and didn't really find a way to embed the visualization window in the gadget.

I am also now using Windows 7 and now that there is no physical "sidebar" and the gadgets are free roaming for me it now makes more sense to use a built-in, "skinny" Mini View instead of the gadget.  This would also give you the small visualization window and other things you want as well.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 12, 2009, 04:26:21 pm
so you just minimize the display window?  what about the cool features of your gadget?  5 starring and add to playlist? hovering etc.. those aren't available with jrivers display view...

Sorry for late reply.. im not getting notifies on this topic and i have it selected to get replies.. will check here periodically to get the replies.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 12, 2009, 11:09:03 pm
so you just minimize the display window?  what about the cool features of your gadget?  5 starring and add to playlist? hovering etc.. those aren't available with jrivers display view...

Well, I meant the Mini View "mode" (Ctrl+2).  Several of the skins have a small visualization window that if you double-click it Display View is opened.  You could also just still have the gadget open and then shrink Display View down really small and position it next to the gadget.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 13, 2009, 08:16:51 am
yeah... good point, it's a work around at least ;)  ty.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: bob on November 14, 2009, 10:47:36 am
We were having trouble with hotmail, msn, live addresses. I contacted MS to get it fixed and moved to a different email sending server as well. Sorry for the missed notifications, they should be working now.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 14, 2009, 12:45:10 pm
huh?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: bob on November 16, 2009, 08:39:52 am
Sorry for late reply.. im not getting notifies on this topic and i have it selected to get replies.. will check here periodically to get the replies.
Sorry for the hanging reference. I was referring to this quote about not getting email notifications.
and the reason was:
We were having trouble with hotmail, msn, live addresses. I contacted MS to get it fixed and moved to a different email sending server as well. Sorry for the missed notifications, they should be working now.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 16, 2009, 10:23:18 am
ohhh.. ok thank you.

yes this morning i noticed i had a bunch of emails from topics i had subscribed to. :) thanks for fixing it
Title: v2.5
Post by: cncb on February 20, 2010, 09:23:32 am
I posted an update since I was having registry access issues with Windows 7 x64.  I fixed this and also added the option to have the center divider be a progress bar and some color options.
Title: Re: v2.5
Post by: maxxsid on February 20, 2010, 03:03:16 pm
Thanks! Good timing! I just upgraded to W7 from XP and finally got my hands on your nice gadget.
I am trying to modify it to better match W7.
One question. In
Code: [Select]
If( IsEqual([Media Type],Audio), <i>[Name]<//i> by [Artist], [Name]<br>[Date] )[Name]
[Date] ) doesn't seem to do do anything.
Only >[Name]<//i> by [Artist] part shows up.
If I modify it to just
If( IsEqual([Media Type],Audio), [Name])
It only shows "1" for some reason
Is there something in js which parses it or something?
Thanks!
--max

I posted an update since I was having registry access issues with Windows 7 x64.  I fixed this and also added the option to have the center divider be a progress bar and some color options.
Title: Re: v2.5
Post by: cncb on February 20, 2010, 03:47:28 pm
Is there something in js which parses it or something?

No, there shouldn't be.  It just passes the expression on to MC - the only thing that you have to be wary of is slashes in any HTML text since they will need to be 2 slashes for MC to ignore them when resolving the expression.  Your modified "If" statement seems to be missing the second, "false" part of the expression.
Title: Re: v2.5
Post by: maxxsid on February 20, 2010, 05:18:29 pm
Thanks!
My fault. Didn't know how IF really work. Thanks for guiding me to the right direction!

No, there shouldn't be.  It just passes the expression on to MC - the only thing that you have to be wary of is slashes in any HTML text since they will need to be 2 slashes for MC to ignore them when resolving the expression.  Your modified "If" statement seems to be missing the second, "false" part of the expression.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Livin on March 13, 2010, 03:20:48 pm
does this work on remote MCs (instances on other PCs)?

If yes, how?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on March 14, 2010, 06:06:07 pm
does this work on remote MCs (instances on other PCs)?

It only works on the local instance of MC, however, if you are using the local instance as a Library Server client and the current zone is actually one of the zones on the remote PC (I think this is possible) then you should be able to control it with the gadget.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Livin on March 20, 2010, 06:51:16 pm
Is it possible to mod the code to work remotely? I use MC on my HTPC and it would be nice to use a small UI to control it remotely.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on March 21, 2010, 04:21:57 pm
Is it possible to mod the code to work remotely? I use MC on my HTPC and it would be nice to use a small UI to control it remotely.

Does the Library Client controlling a remote zone not work?  If not, you would be better off using a small browser window with the various web controllers available for MC as it would take a total rewrite of the gadget to use the web server to control a remote instance.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on August 27, 2010, 08:54:32 pm
hmm i lost this topic.. But thanks Cncb :)

Ok finally my question..is there anyway yet to change keywords yet form the sidebar?

Really would love to be able to do this. also would be Cooool to play vids within it as well, but my main feature i'd liek to see is to change keywords if at all possible

Thanks For Listening.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on August 27, 2010, 09:18:22 pm
Really would love to be able to do this. also would be Cooool to play vids within it as well, but my main feature i'd liek to see is to change keywords if at all possible

No, sorry.  A generic field/tag text editor would have to be added to the flyout.  I will keep this in mind if I do a future update.

For video, I think you are better off using a really small detached Display View.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on August 27, 2010, 09:20:43 pm
ok yeah i wasnt sure how it works. just figured if it worked for playlists could be done with other fields... thanks for reply
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on August 31, 2010, 03:26:17 pm
hey could you help me with my customized code?

I'd like to be able to see if my music video's are 5 starr'd as well from the sidebar gadget.. and i'm not sure how to accomplish this without wrecking what i have for audio...

<font size="2">If( IsEqual([Media Type],Audio), [Name] /<font color="#ffcc33">([rating]/)Stars</font> <font  size ="2" color="white">by >[Artists]<//b> from [Album] /([Date]/), [Name])</font>

Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on August 31, 2010, 10:10:50 pm
Just replace [Name] after the comma at the end with whatever you want and it won't affect audio.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on September 02, 2010, 03:42:45 pm
sorry for my ignorance.. i think im doing it wrong. the 5 stars still dont show up for my music videos?
this is what i had...

<font size="2">If( IsEqual([Media Type],Audio), [Name] /<font color="#ffcc33">([rating]/)Stars</font> <font  size ="2" color="white">by [Artists]<//b> from [Album] /([Date]/), [Name])</font>

And What I changed...

<font size="2">If( IsEqual([Media Type],Audio), [Video] /<font color="#ffcc33">([rating]/)Stars</font> <font  size ="2" color="white">by [Artists]<//b> from [Album] /([Date]/), [Name])</font>
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on September 02, 2010, 05:27:06 pm
Change the last [Name] at the very end right before )</font>.  You will have to add a similar rating expression like you have for audio.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on September 02, 2010, 06:39:47 pm
no go thanks anyway
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on September 02, 2010, 07:34:41 pm
Try this:

Code: [Select]
<font size="2">If( IsEqual([Media Type],Audio), [Name] /<font color="#ffcc33">([rating]/)Stars</font> <font  size ="2" color="white">by [Artists]<//b> from [Album] /([Date]/), [Rating])</font>
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on September 04, 2010, 11:37:17 am
no go :( im at wits end.. would it be ok to ask for full code? i'm not a coder and it's beyond me

this is what i have so far...

<font size="2">If( IsEqual([Media Type],Audio), [Name] /<font color="#ffcc33">([rating]/)Stars</font> <font  size ="2" color="white">by [Artists]<//b> from [Album] /([Date]/), [Name])</font>

i just want to keep that line and be able to see 5stars for video's. so i can always know if my video files are rated as well

It would be much appreciated.
sorry for my ignorance
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on September 05, 2010, 08:39:30 am
I did post the full expression which works for me (the expression you posted above is not the same as the one I posted).  Copy and paste the whole expression and it will show you the rating as a number when you are playing a video (while leaving what you had for audio untouched).  The last [Rating] after the last comma in the expression is what is shown for videos so you can change this to show more or less detail as wanted.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on September 05, 2010, 11:10:40 am
ok that works... but all it shows now when i hover over it is a 5. It doesnt show the Artist, name of song, and rating like it did with other code.  :'(
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on September 05, 2010, 12:12:40 pm
If you want it to show the same thing for both media types get rid of the 'If' statement like so:

Code: [Select]
<font size="2">[Name] /<font color="#ffcc33">([rating]/)Stars</font> <font  size ="2" color="white">by [Artists]<//b> from [Album] /([Date]/)</font>
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on September 05, 2010, 03:47:35 pm
YOU ROCK!!!

Man i wish i knew how to code, or at least read this stuff. i'd love to be dangerous :)

Thanks So Much!!!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on January 14, 2011, 01:06:01 am
For those who hate the fact that in Windows 7 the sidebar is somewhat floating and never on top (i.e. when you maximize a program it gets over the sidebar) here's a free gadget that will let the sidebar show in the way it did in XP and Vista times. Works great!
http://nes.bplaced.net/sidebar7.html
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on January 14, 2011, 01:08:47 am
NICE!!! - Rock on!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on January 14, 2011, 07:49:36 am
I tried this a while back and while I really want the functionality my paranoia got the best of me and I removed it.  It installs and registers a dll that can do anything it wants on the system (unlike most gadgets that use javascript that you can read and see what it is doing) so I got rid of it.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on January 14, 2011, 11:14:51 am
Thanx for heads up cncb :(
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on January 14, 2011, 12:29:08 pm
I tried this a while back and while I really want the functionality my paranoia got the best of me and I removed it.  It installs and registers a dll that can do anything it wants on the system (unlike most gadgets that use javascript that you can read and see what it is doing) so I got rid of it.
Mmm... Now what to do? I'll give it a go for awhile and I'll keep you posted if something really bad happens to my system. So far so good, though.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on January 14, 2011, 12:39:07 pm
MarkCoutinho did you try my suggestions in private message reply?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on January 14, 2011, 04:13:52 pm
Yeah, I tried, but as far as I understood the directions: to no avail.

For other readers/posters I'll tell my sidebar gadget problem:
I just can't get the MC-sidebar gadget installed.
This is what I do:
- download
- rename the zip to MC.Gadget
- run this thing.

Nothing happens though. It's not even showed in the 'more gadgets' window of Windows 7.

These directions did not help:
=====================================================================
goto desktop make new folder, open new folder goto tools folder options, view uncheck hide extensions for known file types,hit apply ok MC.Gadget will turn into MC.Gadget.Rar  then right click MC.Gadget.Rar and choose rename then just delete the .Rar.. and it will turn into MC.Gadget
=====================================================================


Any suggestion would be great!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on January 14, 2011, 04:20:53 pm
sorry couldnt help.. cncb is good at getting back. I'm sure he'll be able to help you out.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on January 14, 2011, 08:14:06 pm
Nothing happens though. It's not even showed in the 'more gadgets' window of Windows 7.

Does it show the little gadget icon next to the file name after you rename it and before you are double-clicking it?  You should get an installation warning dialog when double-clicking; are you not even getting that?

Some other things to check:
Are you able to add other gadgets?  Are you using a different OS language other than U.S. English?  Are you logged in as an administrator?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Scolex on January 14, 2011, 08:26:22 pm
download MC.Gadget.zip unzip which will create folder MC.Gadget copy or cut folder and go to %userprofile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Sidebar\Gadgets paste and it should be in gadget gallery
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on January 16, 2011, 02:47:37 pm
Does it show the little gadget icon next to the file name after you rename it and before you are double-clicking it?  You should get an installation warning dialog when double-clicking; are you not even getting that?

Some other things to check:
Are you able to add other gadgets?  Are you using a different OS language other than U.S. English?  Are you logged in as an administrator?
Yes, it does the little gadet icon after renaming and I do get a warning dialog when I double -click it.
I am able to add other gadgets and I am logged in as an admin.

Only difference might be that my OS language is Dutch. Would that be the cause of this problem?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on January 16, 2011, 02:48:28 pm
download MC.Gadget.zip unzip which will create folder MC.Gadget copy or cut folder and go to %userprofile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Sidebar\Gadgets paste and it should be in gadget gallery
I tried this one too, but it didn't help either. Any other suggestion would be highly appreciated!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Scolex on January 16, 2011, 08:13:16 pm
Have you tried to download it again? I just did an experiment on the one I downloaded the other day in that I went in and changed 1 character in the xml so the Hash would be wrong to see if that would keep it from installing and it would not install. Downloaded it again and it installed with no problem.
Or you can go into the sidebar folder and open the settings.ini file in notepad and enter the below string at the bottom of the Hashes section since you already have it in the gadgets folder.
C:\Users\YOURUSERNAMEHERE\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Sidebar\Gadgets\MC.Gadget="%7BC1A9EE89-9B50-69F4-6A02-6E71FCAACA15%7D"

If that doesn't work I am at a complete loss other than go into task manager and kill the sidebar process before trying to install.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on January 16, 2011, 10:30:38 pm
Only difference might be that my OS language is Dutch. Would that be the cause of this problem?

Look at the folders of the other gadgets that have installed correctly and see if they have a sub-folder other than "en-US" (presumably named with whatever the Dutch abbreviation is).  If so, create one with the same name for the MC Gadget and copy everything from the en-US sub-folder to the new one.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on January 29, 2011, 02:39:42 pm
Thanks, guys, but none of the tips worked:
- rename en-US to nl (which is the Dutch abbreviation)
- editing the settings.ini

I don't quite understand Scolex's advice though: "changed 1 character in the xml so the Hash would be wrong". What do you mean with that?

I do hope we can solve this issue as I really miss the gadget.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Scolex on January 29, 2011, 03:47:52 pm
If you open your setting.ini file you will see a list of all the gadgets with their hash check number. If the file has been modified or if a bit flips during the download it can cause it to not install.
The location and hash has to be present in the settings.ini or ir will not show up in the gadget gallery even if the folder is there.
Once the folder and the hash string are present it should be visible in the gallery.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on February 01, 2011, 11:17:24 am
Thanks, guys, but none of the tips worked:

Did you try to download it again like Scolex suggested just in case the original download was bad?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on February 01, 2011, 02:26:35 pm
@Scolex and @CNBC

Thank guys, again, for your patience and help. After your latest suggestions I did some work and I noted it line by line here for you:

- download the .zip-file
- remove the .zip from the filename
- install the MC.gadget file. Nothing happens (I ran a search jrmc*.* on C:\ and nothing was found)
- then I unpacked the gadget with 7-Zip to the folder MC. The folders unpacked are called [en-US] and [images] and one file in the rootdir: logo.png
- I copied this MC-folder to C:\Users\Mark\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Sidebar\Gadgets\ Still the gadget can't be seen in the 'Add gadgets' dialogue box
- Then I copied the same folder to c:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\Gadgets\. No result either.
- I thought that maybe the fantastic Sidebar7.gadget might be the cause of all my problems, so I uninstalled that one, but to no avail.

Then I tried different stuff with the settings.ini, like Scolex suggested (and even more)
- after I installed the gadget the MC-hash wasn't in the settings.ini, so I copied the one you quoted a couple of posts before this one
- this did not make the gadget show up
- then I copied/paste the old MC-section which I had used and backed up in Windows XP (quite some lines, but what the heck - why not give it a go?)
- still no result

I'd say I couldn't do more than this.
I might add that I'm not able to install it on my home-pc and not on my pc at the office.

Phew...
Do you see anything I did do wrong or oversee?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on February 01, 2011, 03:42:30 pm
Sorry, I don't know what the problem is.  Everything looks right.  My only guess is that it has something to do with your OS language/locale.  Try renaming (or copying and renaming) the MC gadget "en-US" folder to "nl-nl" which I think is the correct Dutch locale id.  Do the other gadgets that have installed successfully for you have folders other than "en-US"?

Edit: Mark, someone had the same problem discussed earlier in this thread (although a couple years ago :)) and it was fixed by renaming "en-US" to "nl-NL" in the zip/gadget file before installation: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=46403.msg336214#msg336214
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Scolex on February 01, 2011, 04:03:41 pm
Never heard of such a thing  ? ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on February 01, 2011, 04:31:00 pm
Sorry, I don't know what the problem is.  Everything looks right.  My only guess is that it has something to do with your OS language/locale.  Try renaming (or copying and renaming) the MC gadget "en-US" folder to "nl-nl" which I think is the correct Dutch locale id.  Do the other gadgets that have installed successfully for you have folders other than "en-US"?

Edit: Mark, someone had the same problem discussed earlier in this thread (although a couple years ago :)) and it was fixed by renaming "en-US" to "nl-NL" in the zip/gadget file before installation: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=46403.msg336214#msg336214
Yeah, I tried that before and I gave it go now too, but... no.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on February 01, 2011, 04:34:00 pm
Never heard of such a thing  ? ? ? ? ?
I don't know what you mean with that, but that probably doesn't matter.
However, I would like to ask you one favour. Can I send you my settings.ini file so that you can check whether everything is in the right place there? It'll be probably my last chance of getting this thing working again.
I'd be very grateful!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on February 01, 2011, 04:38:06 pm
Yeah, I tried that before and I gave it go now too, but... no.

You tried renaming to "nl-NL" before installation?  I ask because I thought you tried just "nl" after installation.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on February 01, 2011, 04:53:48 pm
You tried renaming to "nl-NL" before installation?  I ask because I thought you tried just "nl" after installation.
I renamed it to nl-NL, yeah. But 'before installation': maybe that's the problem. When I install the gadget nothing happens. Then what I do is unzipping the gadget and putting the directories in the appdata directory.
Is there another way to install it then?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: Scolex on February 01, 2011, 04:56:59 pm
If you make changes to it before installation it will not install.
The HASH is basically a checksum to verify the file has not been
altered your change makes the checksum fail.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on February 01, 2011, 04:59:58 pm
I renamed it to nl-NL, yeah. But 'before installation': maybe that's the problem. When I install the gadget nothing happens. Then what I do is unzipping the gadget and putting the directories in the appdata directory.
Is there another way to install it then?

Yes, delete the folder that you copied to appdata directory for the MC gadget.  Also, make sure any references to it in Settings.ini are gone.  Then, take the original zip file you downloaded and rename the "en-US" folder inside it to "nl-NL".  Then, remove the .zip from the filename and double-click to install.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on February 01, 2011, 05:01:58 pm
If you make changes to it before installation it will not install.
The HASH is basically a checksum to verify the file has not been
altered your change makes the checksum fail.
Yeah, I got that. But I made the changes after the installation. When I opened the .ini-file (after the installation) (the installation that did not work - see above) nothing was mentioned about the JR-gadget, so I copy/pasted your line from this thread into it.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on February 01, 2011, 05:07:43 pm
Yes, delete the folder that you copied to appdata directory for the MC gadget.  Also, make sure any references to it in Settings.ini are gone.  Then, take the original zip file you downloaded and rename the "en-US" folder inside it to "nl-NL".  Then, remove the .zip from the filename and double-click to install.
YEAAAAHHHH!!!! That did the trick!
Thank you sooo much for your patience and help! You're great.

Thanks again to Scolex too for all your effort!
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on February 01, 2011, 05:11:39 pm
Glad it's finally working for you.  I guess I should put a note in the installation instructions about different locales so I don't forget each time how to fix it  :).
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: MarkCoutinho on February 11, 2011, 04:55:21 am
Bummer... This resolution does not apply to my p.c. at the office. Instead of what I said before there is one difference with the home-situation: at the office I have Windows 7 64-bits installed. Might that be the cause?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: matejkudej on July 14, 2011, 03:41:50 am
Hey, where you can download "Vista Sidebar Gadget MC v2.0"? I can not find it anywhere.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: matejkudej on July 14, 2011, 03:59:51 am
Sorry. I found it ...
Matej.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 09, 2014, 11:25:06 pm
i seem to have lost my instructions...
how do i get this to work with 20 please?
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 10, 2014, 12:54:45 am
I opened (edited) jrmc from users/name/appdata/local/microsoft/windows sidebar/gadgets/jrmc.gadget/en-us/js and changed var gLauncher = MC12.exe to "Media Center 20.exe"

and then removed gadget, then brought it back, and tried connecting but i get error - "Windows cannot find "media center 20.exe, Make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again.

Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 10, 2014, 07:27:34 am
I'm pretty sure I added that as a setting, so you shouldn't be editing the .js files directly.  Open the Settings screen for the gadget (click the little wrench icon) and change the launcher to 'MC20.exe'.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 10, 2014, 12:14:20 pm
well i uninstalled gadget, then reinstalled in, then clicked on wrench, then advanced, then under run on connect (any MC*.exe command) i typed in "C:\Program Files (x86)\J River\Media Center 20\Media Center 20.exe" and also i tried Media Center 20.exe, and MC20.exe

And i get this error...
Thanks

(http://i57.tinypic.com/2q01que.jpg)
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 10, 2014, 01:12:46 pm
It appears that you don't have the newest version of the gadget (2.5) since there is a "General" settings category where you would set the "MC launcher" to 'MC20.exe'.  Uinstall your current gadget, download the attachment in the first post, and install that one and you should see that setting.  The "Run on connect" setting is optional and is just an MCC command that is run when you connect the gadget to MC and it should use whatever you set as the "MC launcher".
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 10, 2014, 01:20:54 pm
must not be my day today...
downloaded and there is no gadget in the zip
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 10, 2014, 01:34:31 pm
Just rename the file and remove the .zip at the end.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 10, 2014, 02:10:58 pm
got new gadget to load, but will not connect.

was set to MC14.exe
windows cannot find error

changed to MC20.exe
just stays at connecting for minute or so, then connecting disappears (jriver 20 mini bar does highlight) however after connecting disappears about 20-30 seconds later connecting reappears  (while typing this when your gadget tries connecting again, jriver mini bar lights up, and i cannot type until i click on firefox window again.) this continues until i close the gadget.

changed to Media Center 20.exe
windows cannot find error
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: cncb on November 10, 2014, 02:24:40 pm
Sorry, I'm not in a position to test since I only use Windows 8 now.  The launcher needs to be set to 'MC20.exe'.  If you haven't already, I would recommend to make sure MC is completely shut down before trying to connect from the gadget to see if that makes a difference.  Also, a reboot never hurts.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 10, 2014, 03:52:49 pm
tried reboot, tried uninstalling, installing with all jriver services force killed.
no go :(
Was great while it lasted.

Thanks
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: astromo on November 14, 2014, 05:22:46 pm
Works for me on Win8.1 x64 as my comments here attest:
Microsoft Surrenders - Gadget Comment (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=88490.msg606823#msg606823)

As long as you're happy to load up another resource, the whole thing can work.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 14, 2014, 07:30:05 pm
it's doable with win 7 with another resource?
which one please, so i can look into it.
We don't plan on moving to 8, 10, 20 anytime soon.

we're very content w/ 7.
thanks
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: astromo on November 14, 2014, 07:42:08 pm
it's doable with win 7 with another resource?
which one please, so i can look into it.
We don't plan on moving to 8, 10, 20 anytime soon.

we're very content w/ 7.
thanks

If you look at the link post, you'll see this comment:
Quote
I also find desktop gadgets to be quite handy, so I've also added this to my old school looking desktop:
http://gadgetsrevived.com/ (http://gadgetsrevived.com/)
but it relates to Win8+. I thought the context was pretty clear from the post title and the opening comment.
Here's another gadget overlay option for Win8:
http://addgadgets.com/faq/#g18 (http://addgadgets.com/faq/#g18)

I didn't realise that you were working with Win7. I thought gadgets worked for Win7 out of the box? In that case, I'd be scratching my head like you.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: HTPC4ME on November 14, 2014, 08:02:26 pm
this was a gadget built by cncb (above), he has now moved to new waters (8.1)

so no go for 7 users.

Thanks for trying to help though :)

We'll just use jrivers taskbar controls... Was nice being able to 5 star from gadget though, and add to playlists. I have a 4 monitor system, and have the right sides lined with gadgets, and use display fusion for all windows. So the gadgets are always on top of anything we do. Made it nice and quick for 5 staring, playlisting and controlling jriver without having the miniview in the way. JRiver took away the skinny mini view options like Blade, and Paradigm.
Miniview as it sits in my opinion takes up to much real estate, and doesn't have the features that cncb's wonderful gadget has.
On our laptops we dont use gadgets, and due to jrivers miniview size we always have to have jriver minimized to taskbar to be at all productive with our other programs...shame really, i like to see and control what im listening to.
Title: Re: MC Vista Sidebar Gadget v2.0
Post by: astromo on November 14, 2014, 11:39:47 pm
this was a gadget built by cncb (above), he has now moved to new waters (8.1)

so no go for 7 users.

Understood. Note that in the referenced thread cncb pipes up with comment, so I was aware that he'd moved on.

You haven't happened to run a process that secures your system against them, have you? I'm not sure whether M$ automated this guide with an OS update:
How to Protect Windows Vista and Windows 7 Systems from Windows Sidebar Gadgets Exploitation (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/dn261332)
Assuming that's not the case, it may give you clues as to what's locking you out.

For the benefit of anyone else coming along, I'd like to underline the point that it is possible to run a gadget on Win 8/8.1. I find the MC gadget useful to run in a minimalist (pseudo-headless) mode for listening playback. I'm aware of the risks as outlined in the M$ thread above. Carefully applied though, they can be quite handy.