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Title: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: JimH on August 30, 2016, 01:42:35 pm: The Id Pi on microSD (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,106807.0.html) is available for order now.

There are other Id options, including the IdPi Fully Baked, a Raspberry Pi that is ready to run. It includes MC and a license.
Title: Re: Build a JRiver Id for about $100
Post by: rossp on November 02, 2016, 04:07:36 pm: Hi Jim, Why is the version on the PI so old?
Version 20.104

Ross
Title: Re: Build a JRiver Id for about $100
Post by: JimH on November 02, 2016, 04:16:53 pm: It hasn't been updated, but it's stable. We plan to update in a couple of months.
Title: Re: Build a JRiver Id for about $100
Post by: thecrow on November 04, 2016, 04:51:17 am: It has been stated on here before that if you upgrade to V21 or V22 you must do so on all your systems as they are not backwards compatible.
Does that mean the Id will only work with other systems if they are V20?
Title: Re: Build a JRiver Id for about $100
Post by: rossp on November 04, 2016, 05:27:26 am: Yeah, It won't connect to my V22 library but it does act as a dlna renderer from my V22 server. It also works with JRemote OK.
Title: Re: Build a JRiver Id for about $100
Post by: JimH on November 07, 2016, 01:20:09 pm: MC22 can load an MC20 library, but not the other way around.

[Edit: The Id now uses MC22 and will work with MC22 or MC23.]

DLNA will work between MC20 and MC22, in either direction.
Title: Re: Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: thecrow on November 08, 2016, 04:26:49 am: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,106148.msg738193.html#msg738193
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: bob on October 10, 2017, 01:35:44 pm: Quote from: jwk246 on September 21, 2017, 12:48:28 pm
Has JRiver ever looked into using Odroid C2 for Id? ARM Cortex A53 1.5GHz Quad Core, Mali-450 GPU, HDMI 2.0 4K/60Hz, Gig Ethernet, H.265 4K/60fps, H.264 4K/30fps, 2GB DDR3 SDRAM, eMMC5.0 Flash Storage, UHS-1 MicroSD, IR Receiver, RPi footprint & layout very close to model 3. Very close in price to RPi.
Yes. IIRC it doesn't do 24 bit color X-Server, a requirement for MC.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: bhampster on December 05, 2017, 04:57:56 pm: Edit- Wanted to know about using this to play multichannel files but see in another thread now that it does not.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: drmimosa on December 07, 2017, 08:51:44 am: What is the timeline for IdPi MC23 release?
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: bob on December 07, 2017, 09:54:59 am: Quote from: drmimosa on December 07, 2017, 08:51:44 am
What is the timeline for IdPi MC23 release?
Shipping now.

All new IdPi's licenses are "Media Center Id" which means the version of Media Center will track our current version without the library location being changed.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: drmimosa on January 06, 2018, 10:46:00 am: Thanks Bob, I will order the new one soon!

When can I update my existing IdPi to "Media Center Pi"? It's currently running MC22 and the last version of Engen.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: bob on January 06, 2018, 11:01:56 am: Quote from: drmimosa on January 06, 2018, 10:46:00 am
Thanks Bob, I will order the new one soon!

When can I update my existing IdPi to "Media Center Pi"? It's currently running MC22 and the last version of Engen.
We haven't decided on an upgrade path yet, the changes are rather extensive, new MC, kernel, etc. Probably not an OTA upgrade.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: drmimosa on January 06, 2018, 03:36:19 pm: Thanks Bob. I'll go ahead and order an upgraded version.

Just to be clear, any Id (IdPi and IdNuc) shipping now will upgrade to future current versions OTA, provided I have a licensed Id and purchase a MC Master license for future versions (23, 24, etc)?
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: bob on January 08, 2018, 09:09:25 am: Quote from: drmimosa on January 06, 2018, 03:36:19 pm
Thanks Bob. I'll go ahead and order an upgraded version.

Just to be clear, any Id (IdPi and IdNuc) shipping now will upgrade to future current versions OTA, provided I have a licensed Id and purchase a MC Master license for future versions (23, 24, etc)?
Yes, the future OTA upgrades to the Id MC will tag along with the MC version.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: Weyeswon on January 14, 2018, 10:12:57 am: Quote from: bob on January 08, 2018, 09:09:25 am
Yes, the future OTA upgrades to the Id MC will tag along with the MC version.

So I'm just mildly confused.....I purchased my Id Pi 3 weeks ago. The versions listed in Panel's settings page show MC 23.0.84 and Id 22.0.81. My last update was earlier this week. Are these the latest? How do I track Panel's version number?

Thank you!
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: JimH on January 14, 2018, 12:37:29 pm: Quote from: Weyeswon on January 14, 2018, 10:12:57 am
So I'm just mildly confused.....I purchased my Id Pi 3 weeks ago. The versions listed in Panel's settings page show MC 23.0.84 and Id 22.0.81. My last update was earlier this week. Are these the latest? How do I track Panel's version number?
Panel doesn't have a version number. It's part of MC.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: bob on January 15, 2018, 09:59:00 am: Quote from: Weyeswon on January 14, 2018, 10:12:57 am
So I'm just mildly confused.....I purchased my Id Pi 3 weeks ago. The versions listed in Panel's settings page show MC 23.0.84 and Id 22.0.81. My last update was earlier this week. Are these the latest? How do I track Panel's version number?

Thank you!
And those are the current version of MC and the Id firmware.

Only MC stable is used for Id updates.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: badger on February 25, 2018, 12:16:21 pm: I reset my IdPi to default settings and now the GUI is asking me to purchase a license ... or restore. Did I get a key with the Pi SD card? I can't remember. If so, I'll have to dig around to find it.

Thanks.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: JimH on February 25, 2018, 12:44:39 pm: I just used the Restore Page to re-send your licenses.

Use the text menu to enter it. Don't use MC.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: badger on February 25, 2018, 03:48:18 pm: Thanks. All set now.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: badger on March 02, 2018, 10:06:54 am: Occasionally I accidentally close the GUI window when using my IDPI (version 22.0.113). Typing "1" to restore the GUI from the command text menu always reboots my IDPI. Is this a bug or by design? Seems that before this version only "98" command would reboot.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: JimH on March 02, 2018, 10:16:07 am: That just sets the mode to GUI instead of text or headless.

MC re-starts automatically after about a minute. You don't have to do anything.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: badger on March 02, 2018, 10:26:22 am: Right. So the reboot is normal behavior then. I think "1" used to simply return the GUI display. Thanks.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: badger on March 09, 2018, 01:12:20 pm: I've been using my IDPI as an audio server (because leaving it on 24x7 uses less power than my PC... I assume). I've tried remote WOL on my PC when playing audio outside of my network... but WOL has proved to be hit and miss.

Anyway I tried Panel today on the IDPI (both inside and outside of network). I get connected, but then it errors out on play. Before further troubleshooting I thought I'd ask if Panel runs (or will run on an IDPI server in the future). I noticed the "Panel" forum thread specifies you need MC23. Is the new Panel (or MC23) in the works for IDPI?
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: badger on March 09, 2018, 01:54:45 pm: I read above (in this tread) that MC23 is shipping now for the IDPI. I just ran "check for updates" and it remains at 22.0.113. How can I obtain MC23 for my IDPI? Thanks...
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: badger on March 10, 2018, 01:10:00 pm: Bump...
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: bob on March 12, 2018, 10:29:31 am: Quote from: badger on March 10, 2018, 01:10:00 pm
Bump...
If you send your MediaCenter IdPi card back we'll upgrade it to the MediaCenter Id version for $20.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: badger on March 12, 2018, 11:37:24 am: OK, I guess I understand the fee if the media has be manually created and delivered... but I think I'll abandon the idea of using the PI as an audio server.

Let me ask though.... I just bought the upgrade to Windows MC24. Perhaps I should have bought the Master License upgrade. Does the Master cover the ID at all, or are the ID and IDPI outliers (license-wise)?
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: bob on March 12, 2018, 11:40:56 am: Quote from: badger on March 12, 2018, 11:37:24 am
OK, I guess I understand the fee if the media has be manually created and delivered... but I think I'll abandon the idea of using the PI as an audio server.

Let me ask though.... I just bought the upgrade to Windows MC24. Perhaps I should have bought the Master License upgrade. Does the Master cover the ID at all, or are the ID and IDPI outliers (license-wise)?
The Id and IdPi are outliers since their licenses are with the hardware so the version moves up independently of the Windows/Mac/Linux MC version.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: astromo on April 05, 2018, 05:59:31 am: Quote from: badger on March 12, 2018, 11:37:24 am
OK, I guess I understand the fee if the media has be manually created and delivered... but I think I'll abandon the idea of using the PI as an audio server.

Let me ask though.... I just bought the upgrade to Windows MC24. Perhaps I should have bought the Master License upgrade. Does the Master cover the ID at all, or are the ID and IDPI outliers (license-wise)?

Interesting view. I'm planning the exact opposite because the Pi has such a low power demand. Its capital cost couldn't be cheaper. And the design philosophy is aimed at a good mix of capability and KISS. On paper it reads as an ideal audio server or renderer to me.
Title: Re: IdPi -- Build a JRiver Id for about $90
Post by: badger on April 06, 2018, 01:15:08 pm: Quote
Interesting view. I'm planning the exact opposite because the Pi has such a low power demand. Its capital cost couldn't be cheaper. And the design philosophy is aimed at a good mix of capability and KISS. On paper it reads as an ideal audio server or renderer to me.

I agree that the Pi is an ideal audio server. I've been using it that way for several months. The reason I've decided to abandon that approach is I'd have to buy a new license for it to go beyond version 22... ( and get the new Panel, etc.). So right now I'm back to a PC server. If Panel works out to be a viable remote player for Android... I may decide to go ahead and buy v23 for the Pi.