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More => Old Versions => JRiver Media Center 21 for Mac => Topic started by: fizzgabiz on May 18, 2016, 03:07:00 am

Title: Native OSX Version
Post by: fizzgabiz on May 18, 2016, 03:07:00 am
Still hoping for a Native OSX Version. That's why I just ordered my upgrade. It is really not expensive for the use I get out of this software. There is hardly another application that I personally use more often than Media Center.

Keep the good work going!
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Title: Native OSX Version
Post by: Awesome Donkey on May 19, 2016, 07:58:04 am
Still hoping for a Native OSX Version.

MC for Mac already is a native OS X application.
Title: Native OSX Version
Post by: unfrostedpoptart on May 20, 2016, 06:27:10 pm
MC for Mac already is a native OS X application.

Yes, technically, to some degree.  But it doesn't appear to be a Cocoa app so simple things like being able to use control-a/e/k while editing text in tags doesn't work which is a real headache!
Title: Native OSX Version
Post by: Awesome Donkey on May 21, 2016, 12:11:28 pm
Yes, technically, to some degree.  But it doesn't appear to be a Cocoa app so simple things like being able to use control-a/e/k while editing text in tags doesn't work which is a real headache!

Just make requests for MC's hotkey commands to function like a native Mac app by default. :)
Title: Native OSX Version
Post by: Three on June 15, 2016, 10:38:54 am
MC for Mac already is a native OS X application.
That may be, but it still has a windows-like interface. Why are the minimize and full screen icons in the upper right instead of the upper left? Why does the x quit the program rather than simply close the window? Why is there an Exit, but not a close option under the file menu? Etc. I love the program, but every time I use it I am reminded that it is a windows program adapted to Mac. I suspect that quite a number of these holdovers could be fixed fairly easily, and I keep waiting for that to happen. At this point, I don't need any more bells and whistles, and think a release that focused solely on providing the users with a complete Mac interface experience would be most welcome!

Doug
Title: Re: Native OSX Version
Post by: Awesome Donkey on June 15, 2016, 10:57:03 am
I'd try using another skin, like Modern Cards.
Title: Re: Native OSX Version
Post by: Three on June 15, 2016, 11:18:29 am
Reskinning doesn't fix the fact that there is no "Preferences" menu item under the Media Center menu list in the menu bar but only a Quit, that the x quits out of the program rather than just closing the window, etc.

I expect that the Mac version should look and feel like a Mac program right "out of the box", and it doesn't. So, thanks for your reply, but it is non-responsive to the issue I raised.

regards,
Doug
Title: Re: Native OSX Version
Post by: kurushi on June 23, 2016, 09:19:53 am
You just need to choose windows or mac version for modern skin and all the 3 controls are Left or right.
Title: Re: Native OSX Version
Post by: Werner on June 23, 2016, 12:53:54 pm
Good news. Just one problem: There is no »modern« skin nor a skin »Modern cards«.
Title: Re: Native OSX Version
Post by: JimH on June 23, 2016, 01:02:02 pm
Try a search.
Title: Re: Native OSX Version
Post by: blgentry on June 23, 2016, 05:37:48 pm
After you find Modern Cards and try it, you might want to try Fusion X3 and Metro X:

http://maverick07x.deviantart.com/art/JRiver-FusionX3-278840579
http://maverick07x.deviantart.com/art/JRiver-MetroX-327728200

Both are a bit more Mac like than others. I'm still stuck on Black and Blue Too (HC SB).  It doesn't look anything like a Mac program, but it's nice and dark and easy to read at the same time. :)

Brian.
Title: Re: Native OSX Version
Post by: Sangie on June 25, 2016, 10:37:32 am
Haha this is not a native Cocoa app. You can tell by how the menu works and how much CPU usage it takes up. I believe it's running in a WineSkin.
Title: Re: Native OSX Version
Post by: Awesome Donkey on June 25, 2016, 10:56:17 am
Haha this is not a native Cocoa app. You can tell by how the menu works and how much CPU usage it takes up. I believe it's running in a WineSkin.

Nope, it's a native OS X application. MC uses it's own system to draw it's windows, menus, skins and everything else - that's why it doesn't use native OS X menus, controls, etc. Whether or not anything can be done to improve this, is up to the development team.

Here's a couple topics on this subject:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=104058.msg723889#msg723889
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=101501.0
Title: Re: Native OSX Version
Post by: JimH on June 25, 2016, 11:06:30 am
Haha this is not a native Cocoa app. You can tell by how the menu works and how much CPU usage it takes up. I believe it's running in a WineSkin.
As Awesome Donkey said, it is a native application.  No Wine, no emulation of any kind. 
Title: Re: Native OSX Version
Post by: chriswimlett on June 25, 2016, 03:39:38 pm
I've found MC 21 CPU usage about the same as Audirvana at just a few %, and significantly less than Roon.
Title: Re: Native OSX Version
Post by: StStephen on June 28, 2016, 12:24:49 pm
JRiver is a Windows program ported to Mac. Yea, yea, "technically" it's a Mac program but it sure doesn't look like one. Don't get me wrong I love this program but really don't see why the interface can't be redesigned to comply with Mac standards. There are a lot of programs out there that offer both Windows and Mac versions of their programs. They don't seem to have a problem designing their programs for both platforms.

With regard to the skins that will provide a more "Mac Like" interface they just don't exist. I've searched modern, modern cards, modern JRiver and nothing shows up.  Perhaps a link to the skins in question could be provided.
Title: Re: Native OSX Version
Post by: JimH on June 28, 2016, 02:45:23 pm
Split Mac Skins